HDS in single AA format: could be ???

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I'm reading a lot about HDS lights and what hit me is that people that try them never leave them: their new EDC!
So I would like to try and maybe turn into a new HDS partisan but...unfortunately... I no more like to use 123 lights, only AA or AAA (or lithium equivalent).

Anyone knows if we will ever have AA HDS ? :candle:
 
We went through various threads and pages of pages of discussion several months ago regarding this, and it was determined then that Henry had no intention of offering a 1xAA format light or tube.

I am sure if things have changed, Henry would have let us know by now.
 
I would use RCR's anyway, and 14500's are superior to 16340's, plus they would make the light ever so longer, which I would prefer. So yeah, a AA model would be HDS perfection for me too.
 
Brasso said:
I would use RCR's anyway, and 14500's are superior to 16340's, plus they would make the light ever so longer, which I would prefer. So yeah, a AA model would be HDS perfection for me too.
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A made-for-14500-only version was what many of us would like to see and although Henry has stated he won't do one, I hold out hope that it will eventually come to pass. The length difference is inconsequential to me, but I'd really like them to be slimmer.
 
Yep, I'd buy one in a minute. I've been looking for slimmer version of my NovaTac 120P, but haven't found anything that comes close to the exquisitely flexible UI and build quality of that great light........ so my search (and hope) continues.
 
I'd buy one in a second too.

And AA's are not an inferior power source. On the contrary; L91's have just as much maH in them as ani 123, the same 10 yr shelf life, don't leak, and can be bought in bulk or packs of 4 or 8 for as little as $1.50 ea. And, 14500's have slightly more energy in them than 16340's, despite having the same mah rating (as far as I remember from what ti-force has posted.)

Add to that the fact that a well designed light can run any AA format including 14500 with a modern emitter and is just as bright as a 123 light, you get more versatility as well.

Hardly inferior; in fact, superior in fact.
 
I'd definitely be interested. The current crop is too chunky for my liking. A really pocketable HDS would be just the ticket. If Zebralight can make a AA sing, then certainly Henry could, too.

Geoff
 
B0wz3r said:
I'd buy one in a second too.

And AA's are not an inferior power source. On the contrary; L91's have just as much maH in them as ani 123, the same 10 yr shelf life, don't leak, and can be bought in bulk or packs of 4 or 8 for as little as $1.50 ea. And, 14500's have slightly more energy in them than 16340's, despite having the same mah rating (as far as I remember from what ti-force has posted.)

Add to that the fact that a well designed light can run any AA format including 14500 with a modern emitter and is just as bright as a 123 light, you get more versatility as well.

Hardly inferior; in fact, superior in fact.
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This is true. Now. Several years ago, especially when the first series of Arc 4 and HDS lights were available the only AA's available were alky's and ni-cd's/ni-mh's. CR123 was a huge step up in the performance envelope, and he developed his driver designs around it. So it would require a design change, in the electronics area to re-develop around a different cell type, a type that has such a wide range of voltages (1.2-1.7/8v on up to 3.6-4.2v for 14500), rather than a narrower performance envelope (~2.8-4.2v). Such a redesign could be very, very costly.

I have my own theories about his product design. I'd bet that the driver for the Clickies and Rotaries is the same, with slightly different versions of software. IT makes no sense, IMM, to have to otherwise extremely similar products, and two different drivers.

As such, it would also make less sense to introduce a newer product that required different driver, operating otherwise in an extremely similar manner to a current product. In my view his best bet is to produce greater quantities of 2xAA bodies for his current products. This, I think, would satisfy the greatest majority of users.
 
Hi all,

I hope Henry will take notice of this thread. I am a newbie here at CPF. If HDS Systems had a "AA" model available, I WOULD of bought that model. Instead, I purchased a budget STREAMLIGHT PT two cell "AA" as my first light. IMHO, both HDS and ELZETTA need to offer "AA" Flashlights.

Regards,
SixCats!
 
I was able to buy one of the 2 AA tubes and must admit I use the CR123 tube more than the AA. If I had a single AA tube might be different though. If I was Henry I would do a small batch and see how they sell........ Wink wink nudge nudge.
 
Yes, it's been obvious for a couple of years now that HDS needs to slim down to expand their EDC market, but since they currently can sell all they can make I don't think they have quite enough insentive yet for an AA version. They would need to change some of their design philosophies probably and you all know how that hate to do that, not to mention their electronics would seem to have a hard time fitting in a compact package based on the current design.

I'd say it will remain a dream for a while yet.
 
B0wz3r said:
And AA's are not an inferior power source. On the contrary; L91's have just as much maH in them as ani 123, the same 10 yr shelf life, don't leak, and can be bought in bulk or packs of 4 or 8 for as little as $1.50 ea.
Hardly inferior; in fact, superior in fact.
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They might have just as much maH, but at half the voltage. and every other point youve made applies to CR123A's, so by that logic, they are roughly half the battery a 123 is.
 
mossyoak said:
They might have just as much maH, but at half the voltage. and every other point youve made applies to CR123A's, so by that logic, they are roughly half the battery a 123 is.
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Okay, by that logic, 123's are a available in about 1/10th as many places AA's are, so by definition they're only 1/10th as good as AA's.
 
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