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Johnnyh

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I must have lousy night vision. The low on my Rotaries is just right for me on those night time visits to the head but I wouldn't cry if it was made lower. I'm all for a customizable low locator.
 

Hogokansatsukan

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OK. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I was just asking about a lower low... not all this other stuff! LOL!

Sometimes I think you guys want me dead.
 

PoliceScannerMan

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I would like to point out when the battery gets low-ish on my NLT "low-low" it won't light up on lowest setting, got to be at least on level 2 for it to light up. Pretty sure this is normal behavior on these NLT's with the low-low.
 

kaichu dento

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I would absolutely love a lower low mode. It would be perfect, when the locator beacon even gets this lower low or better a customizable low for the beacon.
I've always pushed for the lower low and would really like to see both it and the ability to make a selection of beacon brightness as well.
 

LuxTacGear

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How about using the tactical software... Start at a lower low, have 12 steps to "high" instead of 24 like the regular Rotary, and give us the second half of the rotary travel as a timed turbo mode of, say, 30 seconds before stepping down as the battery saver in programming now allows? You placate the I want more lumens crowd, keep tactical runtime, and have the lower lows... (I'll get my ice now, Hogo...)

That's a brilliant idea. I had a similar one once. I also vote for lower low.
 

WarriorOfLight

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There are some HDS lights with a "higher High". There are 180, 200, 225, 300 and 325 Lumens models. for me that is perfect. Also the low level is fine to me. I do not need the "feature" that Jetbeam RRTxyz has with 0,0000000001 Lumens or so. If only the LED is very dim shining, sure, than there is a extremely low low. But for real use it is to dim. At least for me.

The thing that I would really like would be a 18350 tube. Maybe the HDS Master Chief Head of Development is thinking about this, with the current HDS Rotary lineup. My guess is the Next Gen HDS will still take some time, and a 18350 tube could be an evolution step between now and the future.
 

Nyctophiliac

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I'm not sure if I would find much use for a lower low, the one I have on my 325 EDC seems optimal for me and my night vision. Mind you I tend to use my Amber HDS for nights thee days.

Also a higher high is not a priority as far as I am concerned. If I need a very bright or long throwing light for walks, searches etc. I'll use a different light entirely. My HDS is the EDC, not the specialist.

However, an 18350 battery tube would be amazing!!!!
 
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Hogokansatsukan

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But there already is an HDS that puts out 1,700 lumens and has incredible throw.
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Hogokansatsukan

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Let's face it, nobody really want an 18350. People only say thay want an 18350 because they haven't given the 18500 enough thought.

Let me explain.
An 18500 tube would be right between the 123 and 18650 tube. A perfect size.
With the proper spacer, you could run a CR123, an RCR123, and 18350, and if the elf was packed off and a gnome replaced him, a single AA.
I reject the 18350... unless it is in an 18500 tube with a spacer.

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AstroTurf

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Let's face it, nobody really want an 18350. People only say thay want an 18350 because they haven't given the 18500 enough thought.

Let me explain.
An 18500 tube would be right between the 123 and 18650 tube. A perfect size.
With the proper spacer, you could run a CR123, an RCR123, and 18350, and if the elf was packed off and a gnome replaced him, a single AA.
I reject the 18350... unless it is in an 18500 tube with a spacer.

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Quoted for TRUTH!!!
 

ma tumba

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actually I think that the desire to always have a 18350 is sort of a cliche. one of the hds advantages is the dual voltage capacity in the 16350 format. 18350 is just 1.5x in capacity over 16350, nothing to write home about. need more runtime - jump to 18650 and get the 5x advantage.

the xx500 tube is a different story. had hds designed a 0.9-4.5v driver, the capacity to run off a single AA would be the game changer. but otherwise it would be more of a novelty item
 
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