HDS Systems EDC # 16

[FPSRelic]

Does anyone use AW IMR 16340's vs. the protected RCR 123s in their HDS? I know that the HDS won't get brighter with rechargeables like most other lights but I have another 1 cell 123 light that does. I have heard good things about the AW IMR's being used in the other light and if I am going to get into rechargeables, I would prefer to use the same for both lights.

I've used IMR16340's in my 200 Rotary. They work, but I haven't been game enough to trust the built-in voltage protection yet. I have heard that if you put a partially charged battery into the light, it gets tricked into thinking its running a CR123A, and will not kick in the voltage protection when required. At one stage I ran the battery in it down low enough for my ZTS tester to show it was at 10% or less. Not sure when the protection is meant to kick in though.

 

[yoyoman]

I have heard that if you put a partially charged battery into the light, it gets tricked into thinking its running a CR123A, and will not kick in the voltage protection when required.

This is an excellent point and this is true for many lights that have a wide input voltage range. I only put fully charged cells into my lights - that way I am confident that I won't trick the voltage protection algorithm.

 

[redryder]

I've used IMR16340's in my 200 Rotary. They work, but I haven't been game enough to trust the built-in voltage protection yet. I have heard that if you put a partially charged battery into the light, it gets tricked into thinking its running a CR123A, and will not kick in the voltage protection when required. At one stage I ran the battery in it down low enough for my ZTS tester to show it was at 10% or less. Not sure when the protection is meant to kick in though.

This is an excellent point and this is true for many lights that have a wide input voltage range. I only put fully charged cells into my lights - that way I am confident that I won't trick the voltage protection algorithm.

I think the newer HDS lights are different. The instructions say that once you put a RCR in the light and the light is set to RCR, it will assume any batteries used are RCR. The light has to be manually reset to recognize CR123.

 

[DaveSebring]

Ordered a custom Rotary on Jan 18th. I will post know when it arrives.

 

[tongkang]

My rotary200 working fine with aw icr battery..I can't recall the last voltage reading it's around +3V after the protected circuit kick in..that's maybe why they recomand imr for further runtime...this has been covered years ago I think..

 

[Ti²C]

Hi,
don't know if it's been pointed before but for those looking for a cheap alternative to the SF beamshaper, the nitecore nfd25 works fine on the HDS's

 

[Croquette]

I received my second HDS yesterday. A rotary 140 high cri with a nichia 219. what a beautiful tint and beam. And honestly, compared to my L10 nichia with 14500, it's more powerful so i think that the 140 lumen are a little underrated.

I have two questions for you :

- what's the purpose of the small hole on the tail cap ?
- why the head of a rotary can't work on a clicky tail ?

Thanks.

Regards,
Quentin.

 

[kaichu dento]

Hi, don't know if it's been pointed before but for those looking for a cheap alternative to the SF beamshaper, the nitecore nfd25 works fine on the HDS's

It looks to be slightly less bulky too. Thanks for the heads up and I may find myself picking one of these up.

 

[Lithium466]

What about parasitic drain in these new HDS? I received my Custom rotary high CRI today, and noticed the included Duracell battery was somewhat depleted (2,92V). Should I expect a heavier parasitic drain in the rotary, or is it the result of some tests by manufacturer or seller?

 

[Moonshadow]

- what's the purpose of the small hole on the tail cap ?

I think that is used to open up the rotary tailcap. Best left to the factory, I think.

- why the head of a rotary can't work on a clicky tail ?

The circuitry is different - the rotary head receives signals from the tailcap to tell it the position of the rotary control.

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

What about parasitic drain in these new HDS? I received my Custom rotary high CRI today, and noticed the included Duracell battery was somewhat depleted (2,92V). Should I expect a heavier parasitic drain in the rotary, or is it the result of some tests by manufacturer or seller?

I think the reduced voltage of your CR123 is from Henry testing the light. 🙂

 

[Croquette]

I think that is used to open up the rotary tailcap. Best left to the factory, I think.


The circuitry is different - the rotary head receives signals from the tailcap to tell it the position of the rotary control.

Thanks. It was just curiosity.
Regards,

 

[the.Mtn.Man]

Hi,
don't know if it's been pointed before but for those looking for a cheap alternative to the SF beamshaper, the nitecore nfd25 works fine on the HDS's

For an even cheaper solution, a cap from many brands of bottled water also work.

 

[the.Mtn.Man]

I received my second HDS yesterday. A rotary 140 high cri with a nichia 219. what a beautiful tint and beam. And honestly, compared to my L10 nichia with 14500, it's more powerful so i think that the 140 lumen are a little underrated.

More likely the L10 is overrated. Each HDS light is individually tuned after assembly to output the advertised lumens.

 

[the.Mtn.Man]

What about parasitic drain in these new HDS? I received my Custom rotary high CRI today, and noticed the included Duracell battery was somewhat depleted (2,92V). Should I expect a heavier parasitic drain in the rotary, or is it the result of some tests by manufacturer or seller?

As far as I know, the parasitic drain in HDS lights remains negligible. You can't really test that using the supplied battery because you don't know what the state of the cell was before shipping.

 

[Lithium466]

I think the reduced voltage of your CR123 is from Henry testing the light. 🙂

I really hope you're right 🙂

 

[OCD]

For an even cheaper solution, a cap from many brands of bottled water also work.

+1 This is what I use also. Cheap (in case it gets lost) and easily obtainable (if I'm out or traveling and don't have mine).

 

[Croquette]

More likely the L10 is overrated. Each HDS light is individually tuned after assembly to output the advertised lumens.

I also verified with my Nichia self modded quark qtlc and the output is similar un turbo mode.

 

[scout24]

I just received a 200lm Clicky from the Marketplace. This is not my first HDS, and I've owned many programable lights. I admit I was lost trying to get it set up... I called the good folks at HDS in Arizona, and 23 minutes later we had it set up exactly the way I wanted. A huge THANK YOU for taking the time out of your day. Wonderful support and customer service!!! 🙂 (Beautiful pure white tint, btw...)

 

[Phil40000]

I have just received my repaired Rotary 200 back from Henry after some sterling warranty work turnaround. When it came back i was setting it back up again to how i have my other HDS lights and i am sure i had programmed a particular setting into the UI.

Basically if the light is already switched on and i press the tailcap down again i want the tactical strobe setting to come on. I have this working no probs on my 2 tactical HDS clicky lights, to recap if i press and hold WHILST the light is already on i want the strobe.

Can anybody help?

I am very sure i managed to programme the Rotary this way before i sent it off.