Check out big country supply in abilene tx. my home town... they are good to deal with as far as i can tell. I have bought stuff from them and thier prices are reasonable although probably not the cheapest. Just do a search for big country supply p.s. They carry more surefire in the store than is on the web site... you might want to call them if you have more questions.
Help! ASP Triad suggestions please.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brightnorm:
moraino,
The Asp is my EDC. Did you get yours at Tanners? If not, can you please give me the source?
Many thanks.
Brightnorm<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, I got then from Tanners. It took a few days to get them because they don't stock them. Price wise is not bad, $50 US.
Regarding the bulb socket, is yours as loose as mine? I can't feel any friction when the bulb is going in the socket.
moraino,
The Asp is my EDC. Did you get yours at Tanners? If not, can you please give me the source?
Many thanks.
Brightnorm<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, I got then from Tanners. It took a few days to get them because they don't stock them. Price wise is not bad, $50 US.
Regarding the bulb socket, is yours as loose as mine? I can't feel any friction when the bulb is going in the socket.
moraino
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kogatana:
"…it's focus is adjusted externally thus quite different from the one you have."
Indeed. I've not seen that model. Any chance you can photograph it and post it?
"But the biggest problem with this light is the light socket. The bulb doesn't stay in it. The teardrop bulb of ASP has longer pins but still it won't stay in the socket."
I've owned mine for almost five years now. It was originally attached to a 16" baton. I've worked out with this setup on a 150-lb. punching bag without any problems. It must be the external focus mechanism.
Take a look at this link to my Triad photo album. Tell me if your Triad lamp assembly looks like mine. I'm curious.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
KT,
My ASP's focus is adjusted externally, therefore the mechanism is very similar to the MAG 3D. The bulb goes in the socket then the reflector goes on top. They are separated, and it's not like yours which is integrated.
The teardrop bulb is briter than the original round one but it's beam shape sucks. Later on I found the reason why. If you look at the bulb filament from sideway, it's is off centered for about 1mm. That's why the beam it casts on the wall is off centered. Don't know if I can return it. I should have ordered more Scorpion bulbs which is better and falf the price.
I am borrowing a digital camera from school. Hopefully I will be able to post some pictures so please be patient with me. Thanks for the help.
"…it's focus is adjusted externally thus quite different from the one you have."
Indeed. I've not seen that model. Any chance you can photograph it and post it?
"But the biggest problem with this light is the light socket. The bulb doesn't stay in it. The teardrop bulb of ASP has longer pins but still it won't stay in the socket."
I've owned mine for almost five years now. It was originally attached to a 16" baton. I've worked out with this setup on a 150-lb. punching bag without any problems. It must be the external focus mechanism.
Take a look at this link to my Triad photo album. Tell me if your Triad lamp assembly looks like mine. I'm curious.
KT,
My ASP's focus is adjusted externally, therefore the mechanism is very similar to the MAG 3D. The bulb goes in the socket then the reflector goes on top. They are separated, and it's not like yours which is integrated.
The teardrop bulb is briter than the original round one but it's beam shape sucks. Later on I found the reason why. If you look at the bulb filament from sideway, it's is off centered for about 1mm. That's why the beam it casts on the wall is off centered. Don't know if I can return it. I should have ordered more Scorpion bulbs which is better and falf the price.
I am borrowing a digital camera from school. Hopefully I will be able to post some pictures so please be patient with me. Thanks for the help.
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Bushman and moraino,
Thanks for the information.
Moraino, I have never had a problem of any kind with my internally focusing Taclite. The lamp fits snugly and securely.
Of course I carry the ASP as a civilian and don't subject it to the challenges that Kogatana and other professionals normally impose. NTL it has proven to be a reliable companion for at least two years of EDC.
I had no idea that there was an externally focusing ASP. I find that the internal focus mechanism, once you get it just right is very stable. I suspect that Kogatana's diagnosis is correct, since I've never heard of your problem with an internal focus model.
Brightnorm
Thanks for the information.
Moraino, I have never had a problem of any kind with my internally focusing Taclite. The lamp fits snugly and securely.
Of course I carry the ASP as a civilian and don't subject it to the challenges that Kogatana and other professionals normally impose. NTL it has proven to be a reliable companion for at least two years of EDC.
I had no idea that there was an externally focusing ASP. I find that the internal focus mechanism, once you get it just right is very stable. I suspect that Kogatana's diagnosis is correct, since I've never heard of your problem with an internal focus model.
Brightnorm
Unicorn
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Are there still rechargeable conversion for the Triads as there were for the Taclites? I saw only one place that ever advertised them, Streichers I think, a LEO/security equipment dealer. It wasa rapid, 1 hour, charger that would charge the battery in the light, and the spare batery at the same time. The run time was unfortunately only 20 minutes though. I want to say that there was different bulb, and also a high power bulb too, for it, but I don't really remember.
moraino
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I didn't manage to get a digital camera. I use scanner instead.
Here is my new photo website http://photos.yahoo.com/pilgrim1956
The pictures are SCANNED so quality is not that good.
Notice the new spare bulb I bought which filament is offcenter quite a bit if you look carefully which results bad beam shape.
For the loose socket problem, I bent the pin sort of zig zag shape using two mini sharp pointed pliers to increase the friction so the bulb will stay in the socket.
I like to buy another ASP, the internal focus model. The Internal type, the insulator is actually sits in between the bulb and the brass cullet so the bulb is sort of grabbed which makes the bulb "secured". Please confirm that.
For those who has the ASP TRIAD, please tell me the model number and whether it comes with tail switch or baton side switch.
Believe me, I spent too much time finding the issue of focus type and switch type. Hopefully William of TTS will be able to help me out later.
The over all impression, it is a good light. I really like the switch since it is silver coded and a very light on/off switch. You can rotate the swith part half turn to open the circuit for storage so it won't be switch on by accident.
Hopefully, those picture will help people who are looking for a long throw 123 light.
Here is my new photo website http://photos.yahoo.com/pilgrim1956
The pictures are SCANNED so quality is not that good.
Notice the new spare bulb I bought which filament is offcenter quite a bit if you look carefully which results bad beam shape.
For the loose socket problem, I bent the pin sort of zig zag shape using two mini sharp pointed pliers to increase the friction so the bulb will stay in the socket.
I like to buy another ASP, the internal focus model. The Internal type, the insulator is actually sits in between the bulb and the brass cullet so the bulb is sort of grabbed which makes the bulb "secured". Please confirm that.
For those who has the ASP TRIAD, please tell me the model number and whether it comes with tail switch or baton side switch.
Believe me, I spent too much time finding the issue of focus type and switch type. Hopefully William of TTS will be able to help me out later.
The over all impression, it is a good light. I really like the switch since it is silver coded and a very light on/off switch. You can rotate the swith part half turn to open the circuit for storage so it won't be switch on by accident.
Hopefully, those picture will help people who are looking for a long throw 123 light.
brightnorm
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by moraino:
[QB]
.....The Internal type, the insulator is actually sits in between the bulb and the brass cullet so the bulb is sort of grabbed which makes the bulb "secured". Please confirm that.
For those who has the ASP TRIAD, please tell me the model number and whether it comes with tail switch or baton side switch.
You can rotate the swith part half turn to open the circuit for storage so it won't be switch on by accident.
QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, the bulb actually sits in the insulator,
which also acts as a shock mounting. If I remember correctly, the bulb comes with the insulator.
My Tailswitch ASP'S only have serial numbers,
not model numbers.
For lockout you have a choice of tailcap or bezel rotation or both. My local dealer claims that bezel rotation is more reliable so that's what I do.
Brightnorm
[QB]
.....The Internal type, the insulator is actually sits in between the bulb and the brass cullet so the bulb is sort of grabbed which makes the bulb "secured". Please confirm that.
For those who has the ASP TRIAD, please tell me the model number and whether it comes with tail switch or baton side switch.
You can rotate the swith part half turn to open the circuit for storage so it won't be switch on by accident.
QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, the bulb actually sits in the insulator,
which also acts as a shock mounting. If I remember correctly, the bulb comes with the insulator.
My Tailswitch ASP'S only have serial numbers,
not model numbers.
For lockout you have a choice of tailcap or bezel rotation or both. My local dealer claims that bezel rotation is more reliable so that's what I do.
Brightnorm
lightlover
Flashlight Enthusiast
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kogatana:
...
"ASP is just out of their minds in not advertising this light more."
Their sales don't seem to suffer due to lack of advertising. Word of mouth or, ahem, "out-of-towners" seems to be suffient to get the product sold. I believe this way the more serious users lend the product much credibility.
...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Word of mouth is indeed great for a good reputation, but not providing any info at all is a serious pain. That must apply to professionals and amateurs alike.
I want to buy extras for mine, but they aren't making it easy. I see it as just disrespect for customers in this Internet age. Where do you get any details, except on that uninformative ASP Australia site, or by asking on CPF ?
ASP have done no-one any favours making the choices and details unavailable. Are they pretending to be For Top Secret Agents Only lights ?
I'd like to know a lot more about the accessories and the rechargeable option, if it exists.
moraino, is the Scorpion lamp OK in a Triad for certain ?
True Fact: Mag-Lite complained that the "Tac-Lite" name was too close to their own, so ASP changed it to "Triad".
lightlover
...
"ASP is just out of their minds in not advertising this light more."
Their sales don't seem to suffer due to lack of advertising. Word of mouth or, ahem, "out-of-towners" seems to be suffient to get the product sold. I believe this way the more serious users lend the product much credibility.
...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Word of mouth is indeed great for a good reputation, but not providing any info at all is a serious pain. That must apply to professionals and amateurs alike.
I want to buy extras for mine, but they aren't making it easy. I see it as just disrespect for customers in this Internet age. Where do you get any details, except on that uninformative ASP Australia site, or by asking on CPF ?
ASP have done no-one any favours making the choices and details unavailable. Are they pretending to be For Top Secret Agents Only lights ?
I'd like to know a lot more about the accessories and the rechargeable option, if it exists.
moraino, is the Scorpion lamp OK in a Triad for certain ?
True Fact: Mag-Lite complained that the "Tac-Lite" name was too close to their own, so ASP changed it to "Triad".
lightlover
moraino
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kogatana:
"…not providing any info at all is a serious pain. I want to buy extras for mine, but they aren't making it easy. I see it as just disrespect for customers in this Internet age. Where do you get any details? ASP have done no-one any favours making the choices and details unavailable. I'd like to know a lot more about the accessories and the rechargeable option, if it exists."
I have often wondered about their lack of a website. Some of us that have owned ASP products for years have endured this inconvenience, however those like myself that have owned the original ASP product just chuckle over this internet "thing." I still own an original ASP conversion Smith & Wesson pistol from the late 70s. Just like today, if I need to find out about an ASP product, the USPS and Ma Bell are here to help.
Their phone # is (800) 236-6243. They are located in Appleton, WI.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
KT,
I hope I am not being stupid, please tell me what USPS is and who Ma Bell is?
I may be buying another ASP but afraid to get another EXTERNAL focused model. If any people can tell me which model has the original EXTERNAL focus, I will buy another one.
"…not providing any info at all is a serious pain. I want to buy extras for mine, but they aren't making it easy. I see it as just disrespect for customers in this Internet age. Where do you get any details? ASP have done no-one any favours making the choices and details unavailable. I'd like to know a lot more about the accessories and the rechargeable option, if it exists."
I have often wondered about their lack of a website. Some of us that have owned ASP products for years have endured this inconvenience, however those like myself that have owned the original ASP product just chuckle over this internet "thing." I still own an original ASP conversion Smith & Wesson pistol from the late 70s. Just like today, if I need to find out about an ASP product, the USPS and Ma Bell are here to help.
KT,
I hope I am not being stupid, please tell me what USPS is and who Ma Bell is?
I may be buying another ASP but afraid to get another EXTERNAL focused model. If any people can tell me which model has the original EXTERNAL focus, I will buy another one.
lightlover
Flashlight Enthusiast
I have an original steam-powered flashlight, but the company doesn't have a website for info.
KT, that's just my point. If you have to resort to slow and ancient methods, the customer is not being served.
There are a lot of details I want to know - I hope they accept collect calls ......
lightlover
KT, that's just my point. If you have to resort to slow and ancient methods, the customer is not being served.
There are a lot of details I want to know - I hope they accept collect calls ......
lightlover
sunspot
Flashlight Enthusiast
Jahn. I just rang ASP for a catalog. If you wish, I will call them for you. Let me know!!
moraino
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by phred:
Jahn. I just rang ASP for a catalog. If you wish, I will call them for you. Let me know!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
COuld you email me a copy when you have it if it's not too much trouble for you.
Jahn. I just rang ASP for a catalog. If you wish, I will call them for you. Let me know!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
COuld you email me a copy when you have it if it's not too much trouble for you.
lightlover
Flashlight Enthusiast
Oh, phred,
I don't want to be any trouble ......
YES Please !!
I would like to know about the accessory options, and also the baton choices that go with the light. Are they all in the same catalogue ?
With luck, maybe they'll send it overseas direct, so you wouldn't have to forward it.
You've got my address anyway.
Thanks Dana,
Jahn
Ps - Sorry, Koga, it's just that the search for info on our stuff sometimes drives me crazy.
I don't want to be any trouble ......
YES Please !!
I would like to know about the accessory options, and also the baton choices that go with the light. Are they all in the same catalogue ?
With luck, maybe they'll send it overseas direct, so you wouldn't have to forward it.
You've got my address anyway.
Thanks Dana,
Jahn
Ps - Sorry, Koga, it's just that the search for info on our stuff sometimes drives me crazy.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kogatana:
Their phone # is (800) 236-6243. They are located in Appleton, WI.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
KT,
Thank you for posting that phone number. At last a way to contact ASP! Tanners said they had never heard of the tailpiece with extra bulb storage, even after I sent them your photo. I'm looking forward to calling Asp tomorrow.
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TRIAD/TACLITE POWER
After all the recent attention given to various SF turboheads and lamps, I must confess that I started thinking of my Triad as a bit "wimpy". As we were walking home tonight around midnight, with not too many pedestrians around, just for the heck of it I decided to try the light (new Triad lamp and new SF 123's) in a "vertical throw test" up the side of a twelve floor apartment house across the street.... !!!!!..... I had forgotten the power of this little guy. The twelth floor windows were brightly illuminated.
Yes, it's true that getting the optimum beam from your (internally focusing) Triad requires a little time and patience, but once you've got it, even if you have to try more than one lamp to do it, you have a small light with unique power and projection. I can understand some people preferring the wider SF beam, and of course it is undeniably first rate, but I've tried most of the 2x123's out there and I keep coming back to the ASP. There's truly nothing like it.
Brightnorm
Their phone # is (800) 236-6243. They are located in Appleton, WI.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
KT,
Thank you for posting that phone number. At last a way to contact ASP! Tanners said they had never heard of the tailpiece with extra bulb storage, even after I sent them your photo. I'm looking forward to calling Asp tomorrow.
__________________________________________________________________________________________
TRIAD/TACLITE POWER
After all the recent attention given to various SF turboheads and lamps, I must confess that I started thinking of my Triad as a bit "wimpy". As we were walking home tonight around midnight, with not too many pedestrians around, just for the heck of it I decided to try the light (new Triad lamp and new SF 123's) in a "vertical throw test" up the side of a twelve floor apartment house across the street.... !!!!!..... I had forgotten the power of this little guy. The twelth floor windows were brightly illuminated.
Yes, it's true that getting the optimum beam from your (internally focusing) Triad requires a little time and patience, but once you've got it, even if you have to try more than one lamp to do it, you have a small light with unique power and projection. I can understand some people preferring the wider SF beam, and of course it is undeniably first rate, but I've tried most of the 2x123's out there and I keep coming back to the ASP. There's truly nothing like it.
Brightnorm
sunspot
Flashlight Enthusiast
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by moraino:
COuld you email me a copy when you have it if it's not too much trouble for you.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I do not have a scanner but I do have access to a copy machine and a fax if thats o.k.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lightlover:
Oh, phred,
I don't want to be any trouble....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
For you Jahn, Never trouble. I will ring them today with your address. Btw, have you heard a thump at your door yet?
COuld you email me a copy when you have it if it's not too much trouble for you.
I do not have a scanner but I do have access to a copy machine and a fax if thats o.k.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lightlover:
Oh, phred,
I don't want to be any trouble....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
For you Jahn, Never trouble. I will ring them today with your address. Btw, have you heard a thump at your door yet?
Size15's
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Dana, your friendly Administrator (that's me, could have been Brock, but it's me in this case) needs to contact you. (BTW, this is Jahn's fault)
Regarding the ASP weight, I'll have a guess.
Later
Al
Regarding the ASP weight, I'll have a guess.
Later
Al
sunspot
Flashlight Enthusiast
O.K. Al. How? pm, email or tele. What did Jahn do now?
brightnorm
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Termac:
Can anyone post the exact wieght of the ASP Triad? Am I right to assume it is much heavier than the other 123 lights, because of its dual functiona as a batton handle?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Termac,
The following weights are for the ASP with backswitch (regular pushbutton "clickie" switch on tail) and for the Surefire 6P with Hex bezel and no clip.
All lights were weighed on a Pelouse digital postage scale accurate to .1oz
ASP TRIAD/TACLITE: 5.4oz
SUREFIRE: 5.2oz (The clip would have probably added another .2oz or so)
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There are other 2x123 lights that are lighter:
SCORPION: 4.6oz
SF G2: 4oz
TACM III: 3.8oz
E2: 3oz
UKE 2L: 2.6oz ( The 2L is the lightest 2x123 incandescent light thatI know of, but its beam is not in the same high intensity category as the others in this group)
Brightnorm
Can anyone post the exact wieght of the ASP Triad? Am I right to assume it is much heavier than the other 123 lights, because of its dual functiona as a batton handle?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Termac,
The following weights are for the ASP with backswitch (regular pushbutton "clickie" switch on tail) and for the Surefire 6P with Hex bezel and no clip.
All lights were weighed on a Pelouse digital postage scale accurate to .1oz
ASP TRIAD/TACLITE: 5.4oz
SUREFIRE: 5.2oz (The clip would have probably added another .2oz or so)
__________________________________________________________________________________________
There are other 2x123 lights that are lighter:
SCORPION: 4.6oz
SF G2: 4oz
TACM III: 3.8oz
E2: 3oz
UKE 2L: 2.6oz ( The 2L is the lightest 2x123 incandescent light thatI know of, but its beam is not in the same high intensity category as the others in this group)
Brightnorm
sunspot
Flashlight Enthusiast
I called ASP and they do not send catalogs overseas. They gave me the name and number of a UK company. Aspen International.011 44 1489 573 8888. Located in Hampshire, (?) she did not know what part of UK))
Jahn, if they give you any grief let me know and I will forward one to you.
Jahn, if they give you any grief let me know and I will forward one to you.
