Help me decide, Surefire E2E or Wolf Eyes Sniper

[HeadCSO]

After much searching for a new incan, I have narrowed it down to these 2. A friend has an E2E and I have been able to try it out, but I haven't been able to find out much about the basic sniper running on 2 CR123A's.

I would like to know:

1. Which is brighter

2. which has better throw

3. Durability of the sniper - is it HAII or HAIII

4. Sniper bulb life and durability

Any other comments from sniper users would also be appreciated.

 

[djblank87]

I used to own a sniper and thought it was an ok light, things I picked up on:

1. Rechargeable.
2. Good Throw.

My personal opinion is that the E2E is brighter up close, while it might lack the throw of the Wolf Eyes. Also, I was not to big on the the clickie on the wolf eyes, to me it seems poorly constructed but that was only on the one I owned.

Both are great lights and you wont be sorry with either.

 

[mdocod]

strange that you would find yourself debating between these 2 lights as they are very different animals...

Choose the E2E if you plan on sticking to CR123s and want the most compact package, choose the sniper if you plan to go rechargeable at some point, or desire more lamp options (including many LED upgrade modules), the sniper is a substantially bulkier light from what I hear, but will support those 18650 li-ion cells.

 

[Patriot]

I'd have to give a huge vote to the E2E. It's machined very nicely, is compact, has a HA finish, several incan bulb options, a wonderful pocket clip, a nicer glass lens with optical coating. You still have the option of using primaries, RCR123 3.0 volt, RCR123 4.2 volt and Lumens Factory makes a high output 150 lumen bulb for it.......if you like to 'trick-out' your lights.

The Sniper is a brick. It's very solid but it's heavy and the head is fat. The finish is still typeII or at least is was on mine. The clickie switch feels very weak and reminds me of the clickie on the Dorcy, 1x123, silver-gray, Target light. The stock Sniper is about 25 lumens brighter that the E2E with the stock bulb.

mdocod pegged it when he said these lights were in completely different classes.

 

[FlashKat]

If I am correct Lumens Factory makes several drop-ins for the sniper going as high as 380 lumens, but 320 lumens is the recommended if using 2 RCR123 3.7v batteries.
What is more important runtime or brightness?

I'd have to give a huge vote to the E2E. It's machined very nicely, is compact, has a HA finish, several incan bulb options, a wonderful pocket clip, a nicer glass lens with optical coating. You still have the option of using primaries, RCR123 3.0 volt, RCR123 4.2 volt and Lumens Factory makes a high output 150 lumen bulb for it.......if you like to 'trick-out' your lights.

The Sniper is a brick. It's very solid but it's heavy and the head is fat. The finish is still typeII or at least is was on mine. The clickie switch feels very weak and reminds me of the clickie on the Dorcy, 1x123, silver-gray, Target light. The stock Sniper is about 25 lumens brighter that the E2E with the stock bulb.

mdocod pegged it when he said these lights were in completely different classes.

 

[HeadCSO]

Thanks to everyone who has posted a reply. Whichever light I get, I will only be using CR123A primaries. The light will only see limited use in certain situations, but must be ready to use - so no rechargeables.

At the moment I am leaning towards the E2E.

 

[Hawkeye62]

Go with the E2E in Black, this is an awsome light w/ a 150 LF bulb and AW RCR123's in it. Had to use mine at a fire last night and it was the brightest smallest light there.. Had loaned it out to another guy while I had the hose and seeing the beam pass my eyes at times while fighting the fire it was blinding. Of course it was dark and there were several other lights beening shined all around but I could tell which one was mine just because of the beam strenght and brightness.

 

[Buzz]

Own the Sniper, E2e and E2d. Sniper has the ability to be more powerful using the Lumen Factory lamps while the SFs are more compact. I am running the 320 lumens lamp in my sniper and the 150 lumens in my E2d.

If you want a compact powerful light that you can put on your belt without a holster; then go for the E2es. If you want one of the most powerful compacts that can use a multitude of lamps and battery options ; go for the sniper. I couldn't make my mind up so I bought both:twothumbs

Note: You can't run rechargables in the stock E2e lamps. Even the 3.0v rechargables will blow the bulb.

 

[kelmo]

I've always have a E2e or E2d with a full spares carrier in my backpack.

Don't have any WE products so I can't compare.

 

[sysadmn]

If you're only going to use primaries, the Sniper looses its' key advantage - the ability to use 18650s. I have an E1e and Sniper; if I were going to carry it in my pocket, I'd prefer an E2e. The Sniper isn't huge, but it's heavier and has a wider head.

Thanks to everyone who has posted a reply. Whichever light I get, I will only be using CR123A primaries. The light will only see limited use in certain situations, but must be ready to use - so no rechargeables.

At the moment I am leaning towards the E2E.

 

[Monocrom]

The Sniper is a brick.... The clickie switch feels very weak and reminds me of the clickie on the Dorcy, 1x123, silver-gray, Target light.

Whoa that's bad!

Don't own a Sniper, but I do have that particular Dorcy model. Best way to describe the switch on it, imagine if the switch was made out of a small chunk of dark caramel. Just hard enough to retain its shape..... until you pressed down on it.

 

[Patriot]

Whoa that's bad!

Don't own a Sniper, but I do have that particular Dorcy model. Best way to describe the switch on it, imagine if the switch was made out of a small chunk of dark caramel. Just hard enough to retain its shape..... until you pressed down on it.

Yeah, it's pretty weak. Maybe a bit better than the caramel but still.....
I don't care for it.

 

[KeeperSD]

I wouldn't carry a sniper in my pocket everyday, but then people talk of carrying A2's so maybe it isn't that big.

Not sure what switch you have on your Sniper Patriot, but i have never thought the switch as weak, but each to their own. I must admit I changed my tail cap on my Sniper recently from the older tapered switch to the newer style squarer switch (similar to the Defender switch). I now much prefer the light, wasn't a huge fan with the old switch.

 

[Monocrom]

I wouldn't carry a sniper in my pocket everyday, but then people talk of carrying A2's so maybe it isn't that big.

The A2 has a pocket clip though. With lights the same size as the Sniper, a pocket clip can really mean a huge difference in terms of comfort.

 

[Grox]

I wouldn't carry a sniper in my pocket everyday, but then people talk of carrying A2's so maybe it isn't that big.

Not sure what switch you have on your Sniper Patriot, but i have never thought the switch as weak, but each to their own. I must admit I changed my tail cap on my Sniper recently from the older tapered switch to the newer style squarer switch (similar to the Defender switch). I now much prefer the light, wasn't a huge fan with the old switch.

The E2E is seriously a lot smaller than the A2. For some reason, when you hold them in your hand you don't feel the difference as much as you do in your pocket. What I mean is that when you look at them, the A2 doesn't seem to be a lot larger than the E2E, but once it's in your pocket, you really notice how much smaller the E2E is/was.