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You guys and the stories are killing me with anticipation of the two I have on order. You're saying that it outshines a 4 cell mag lamp assembly? Now I know mags are not Surefires but they throw a pretty fair distance when focused down to their tightest spot and surely must draw considerably more then the 1 watt or so the luxeon draws. I'm waiting to become a believer. Damn near tempted to order two more based on testimonials alone.
 
Hopefully someone will do a run time (plus pics) for a tec 40 version.

Raven
 
5 watts would mean a much more limited choice of lights in which the LED would work due to the excess heat that needs to be dissipated. It would be better to build a properly designed flashlight with appropriate heat sinking rather than retrofitting bulbs into any $2 flashlight. Without proper heat management, the regulator circuit would have to throttle output down so much that it would end up not being much better than a 1 watt light (at least with existing LED technology).
 
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5 watts would mean a much more limited choice of lights in which the LED would work due to the excess heat that needs to be dissipated. It would be better to build a properly designed flashlight with appropriate heat sinking rather than retrofitting bulbs into any $2 flashlight. Without proper heat management, the regulator circuit would have to throttle output down so much that it would end up not being much better than a 1 watt light (at least with existing LED technology).

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I think the key words there are "Existing technology" who knows what we are likely to see in the next 6 months.
 
And I'm sure LED Dynamics has plenty of cash now for development... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
For those awaiting their Everled: Today I received # 777, was ordered on 3-19-03. Now waiting for the sun to set. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Compared to the standard bulb, my eyeballs tell me it's definately brighter. At the hotspot, the EverLED is a bit brighter than the stock bulb, no more than twice. But it has a big corona that is no less than 1/2 as bright as the hotspot, so the total output is definately much greater than the Mag stock bulb. This is on a 4D Mag with new batteries and under 30 minutes of wear on the original bulb.


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Now, I know that the light will be "WHITER", but how does it compare to the "throw" of a 4D Mag-lite, with a stock bulb? (assuming the ever-led is also in a mag D light?)
 
I just took the back seat in this bus. Order date 4/03/03.

So anyway what would be the most compact durible pr based flashlight I could get for my new EverLeds that would work correctly?
 
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Brotherscrim said:
Compared to the standard bulb, my eyeballs tell me it's definately brighter. At the hotspot, the EverLED is a bit brighter than the stock bulb, no more than twice. But it has a big corona that is no less than 1/2 as bright as the hotspot, so the total output is definately much greater than the Mag stock bulb. This is on a 4D Mag with new batteries and under 30 minutes of wear on the original bulb.


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Now, I know that the light will be "WHITER", but how does it compare to the "throw" of a 4D Mag-lite, with a stock bulb? (assuming the ever-led is also in a mag D light?)

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Like I said, it's brighter. "Throw" is really a question of focusing. And as the second paragraph of the post you quoted says, the EverLED focuses very well. I live in a city, so the opportunity to test throw is limited by light pollution and respect for neighbors. But I can honestly say that in my experience, an EverLED in a 4D mag will meet or beat the stock bulb in every way. It's brighter, whiter, and I would imagine throws just as far.

Now, I have just had the chance to put the EverLED in a Tec 20. This is not a good set up. The EverLED is a little too tall, and you wind up with the black "collar" of the EverLED fully in the reflector. Combine that with the much smaller reflector area of the EverLED compared to the Mags, and you wind up with a couple of problems.

The hot spot is a bit dim, and a fair amount of the light winds up going all over the place.

Also, because the EverLED is so much longer than the standard bulb, you can't screw the bezel on very far. The bezel barely passes the O-ring, making me wonder whether it can still keep the water out. Even when I snipped half of the spring off, it didn't really help all that much.
 
Just got my email confirmation today that it has been shipped. Yippie!!! I'll be following the tracking number closely.
 
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woodbender said:
Just got my email confirmation today that it has been shipped. Yippie!!! I'll be following the tracking number closely.

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Woodbender, when did you place your order? I placed mine a week ago today and no ship confirmation yet.
 
I too am also waiting for my Everled. I am surprised that other than some eyewitness accounts (which have been good), there haven't been any more formal reviews with runtimes, measurements, etc. You'd think that an item that's hot like this would spawn more than a few beam shots. Could it be that none of our dedicated CPF'ers with testing equipment have received theirs yet (knowing that they must have ordered one or more already...)?
 
I received two white EverLEDs a couple of weeks ago.

My problem with them is that, of the ~20 inexpensive lights in which I envisioned using these devices, they fit in exactly 2! Several lanterns and smaller AA devices depend on the electrical connection being made not on the bottom button and on the flange, but on the bottom button and on the bottom edge of the can. The standard incandencent bulbs have a shell which wraps slightly on the bottom of the can. The EverLEDS have ONLY the flange. At the base of the can there is only epoxy. Additionally, they are too long for many bulb sockets (without mods). These limitations means that more are probably not in my future. (yeah, right, who am I kidding... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

When they do fit, they work VERY well.
 
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Kercheval said:
I received two white EverLEDs a couple of weeks ago.

My problem with them is that, of the ~20 inexpensive lights in which I envisioned using these devices, they fit in exactly 2!....

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Which two?

Brightnorm
 
I ordered two.

I put the first one in a three D Mag. That light was running a Carley Quartz bulb. The beam was so tight with the quartz that I had no where around here I could use it. When the focus was opened up, the beam pattern was not great. With the EverLED the beam is not nearly as tight, but very smooth. While not as bright as the quartz bulb, I will stick with the EverLED for the quality of light. It is very white - very much like a car HID lamp.

I am using the second bulb in a 3C Kel-lite that is about 25 years old. The reflector in that light is not very good and produces a poor pattern with both a krypton and a quartz bulb. With the EverLED, it is somewhat better, but I have to use a spacer ring to move the bulb back slightly in the reflector.

I have not tried them in any other lights, and I assume that runtime will be much better than the quartz bulbs.
 
I think at some point, maybe even in this thread, or maybe it was in the documentation that came with the thing? They asked that you let them know about lights that it doesn't work in so that they can improve future designs or at least compile a list of what works and what doesn't.

So if you find lights that it doesn't fit in, by all means let them know.

EDIT: Oh, and I should probably mention that mine has been in the all plastic target branded 4AA turtle light'ish light and has been quite happy there, no problems with heat or other issues. It's still very bright and running strong. And I'm still on the first set of batteries /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
1) An inexpensive Eveready 2AA rubber grip. This one is just the typical HomeDepot style light.

2) The Dorcy adjustable lantern (4D). The EverLED was particularly nice in this because of the side emitter. It pushes up into lantern mode and *wham*, nice side light for the center table of a campsite.

Those that did not work were a number of 4D large reflector lights (Garrity and Eveready) and multitudes of 2AA lights (no name, Garrity, Energizer, etc. (ahem... the kid's will really like this one, honey! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif).

Side note: My mix of lights are low end and high end. I don't have much in between. Believe or not, not ONE M*g.
 
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