how many mpg do you get?

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Ain’t that the truth. Tough way to make a living. I mean the real ones, not the weekend warriors.Saw two fatal crashes of semis in the last6 months going off highways, no other cars involved. I realize it would only cause more inflation but conditions and pay of truckers should be improved in this country. Is everybody just waiting for driverless everything and the person in the truck will be the robot’s helper. ? Maybe this post should be in supply chain thread.
 
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Ain’t that the truth. Tough way to make a living. I mean the real ones, not the weekend warriors.Saw two fatal crashes of semis in the last6 months going off highways, no other cars involved. I realize it would only cause more inflation but conditions and pay of truckers should be improved in this country. Is everybody just waiting for driverless everything and the person in the truck will be the robot’s helper. ? Maybe this post should be in supply chain thread.

The industry has a huge shortage of drivers.
And the drivers that are in the industry are placed on restrictions that are tough to overcome...which leads to foolish decisions being made.
Over the road trucking is a challenging job and lifestyle.

California is proposing emission controls at the port and a majority of the semis on the road can't pass.

When semis have to move towards these environmental restrictions the most lucrative business in the world will be roadside mechanic because manufacturers have yet to design a diesel that can go 100,000 miles without emission issues. Brokers will make a ton, too, because they will have to be the one that finds another semi to go pick up the load that's on the side of the road.
 
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My next vehicle is likely to be a SUV that has a driver's seat that sits high. I woud much prefer to tool around in a little sports car, but there are things to be considered.

1. Crumple zones:
I currently drive a Grand Marquis. It has huge crumple zones, that makes it one of the safest cars on the road. Sports cars do not have large crumple zones.

2. Large, full size cars, and SUVs can carry more people, and cargo that a little sports car.

3. Even full size cars sit low enough that they are more aerodynamic than SUVs, but they also sit low enough to cause the driver to be eye level with the headlights of many trucks, and SUVs.

Therefore my next car is likely to be an SUV, which is not as fuel efficient as some sports cars, or regular cars, but will sit my eyes above the blinding lights of many oncoming vehicles.
 
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There are plenty of CDL holders. Churn in trucking is incredibly high.
Over 90% annual turnover with pay about half in real dollars compared to 1980. What‘s the saying? “Progress is the improved means to an unimproved end.”
 
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My next vehicle is likely to be a SUV that has a driver's seat that sits high. I woud much prefer to tool around in a little sports car, but there are things to be considered.

1. Crumple zones:
I currently drive a Grand Marquis. It has huge crumple zones, that makes it one of the safest cars on the road. Sports cars do not have large crumple zones.

2. Large, full size cars, and SUVs can carry more people, and cargo that a little sports car.

3. Even full size cars sit low enough that they are more aerodynamic than SUVs, but they also sit low enough to cause the driver to be eye level with the headlights of many trucks, and SUVs.

Therefore my next car is likely to be an SUV, which is not as fuel efficient as some sports cars, or regular cars, but will sit my eyes above the blinding lights of many oncoming vehicles.

IIRC, you are wanting a minivan. They rate at the top for collision survivability. SUVs are tippy also.

One of my vehicles is an s2000. You don't drive it for practicality.
 
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Over 90% annual turnover with pay about half in real dollars compared to 1980. What‘s the saying? “Progress is the improved means to an unimproved end.”

Working condition, compensation, etc are valid topics. But there's no shortage of CDL holders in general.
 
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Working condition, compensation, etc are valid topics. But there's no shortage of CDL holders in general.
Let me rephrase…people with the skill and experience wanting to do the job.
 
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My next vehicle is likely to be a SUV that has a driver's seat that sits high.

Once you go high it’s hard to go back.
My wife has a lifted suv. You can’t get her back into a smaller vehicle. She had a OBS Suburban on 35” but she didn’t care for it that much.

We built a lifted Samurai together…that was fun.
 
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The industry has a huge shortage of drivers.
And the drivers that are in the industry are placed on restrictions that are tough to overcome...which leads to foolish decisions being made.
Over the road trucking is a challenging job and lifestyle.

California is proposing emission controls at the port and a majority of the semis on the road can't pass.

When semis have to move towards these environmental restrictions the most lucrative business in the world will be roadside mechanic because manufacturers have yet to design a diesel that can go 100,000 miles without emission issues. Brokers will make a ton, too, because they will have to be the one that finds another semi to go pick up the load that's on the side of the road.
Drivers get treated like garbage. The restrictions placed on them are simply insane. Is it any wonder there's a shortage? I'm surprised it's not worse.

Remember a few short decades ago when California passed laws that actually made sense? I recently bought a 2AAA LED Mini-Mag in one of their presentation boxes. Still a great way to gift someone a light, especially in a color they really like; other than black. What do I see on the bottom of the box?.... "According to California Law: This product contains...." I live in NYC. I don't care about California's laws made by mentally diseased individuals who should be locked away in asylums instead of California's capitol building. Would have taken forever to get that stupid label off. Apparently its attached with industrial strength glue. Luckily awhile back, a subscriber on my main YouTube channel pointed out how incredibly well nail-polish with acetone works on adhesives.

Simple soltion for dealing with California. Don't ship there. Hear me out. Trucking companies make a Public Announcement refusing to ship there, and why. One month, maybe two. Watch how quickly those moronic regulations are repelled in exchange for ones grounded in reality. During that time, horrific hyper-inflation. Nothing coming in! The ports? Sure. But trucks are still needed to get those containers moved within the state. Industries in the state need trucks to move their products too. When gas reaches $925.oo a gallon, no Blue collar workers are going to come into work. Zero EVs being shipped into California. After that, the trucking companies can ask, "Willing to be reasonable, now?" Then just tack on a fee for the revenue lost during that one or two months.
 
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Once you go high it’s hard to go back.
My wife has a lifted suv. You can’t get her back into a smaller vehicle. She had a OBS Suburban on 35” but she didn’t care for it that much.

We built a lifted Samurai together…that was fun.

Wasn't samurai rebadged as mitsubishi monterro?
 
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Funny how car companies rate "mileage" as litres/100km (in Canada). Larger number means less good which is counter-intuitive. I don't track closely but use km/litre which is equivalent to MPG. It varies by season.

Dave
 
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Funny how car companies rate "mileage" as litres/100km (in Canada).
Most of the world uses energy per unit distance while the US seems stand largely alone in using distance per unit energy. I've seen passionate arguments both ways and it seems to boil down to having embraced whichever standard one's grown accustomed to.
 
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Most of the world uses energy per unit distance while the US seems stand largely alone in using distance per unit energy. I've seen passionate arguments both ways and it seems to boil down to having embraced whichever standard one's grown accustomed to.
Also doesn't help that car companies rate MPG the way flashlight companies rate lumens. Both over-promise. Neither held accountable to tell the truth.
 
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Most of the world uses energy per unit distance while the US seems stand largely alone in using distance per unit energy. I've seen passionate arguments both ways and it seems to boil down to having embraced whichever standard one's grown accustomed to.

Also doesn't help that car companies rate MPG the way flashlight companies rate lumens. Both over-promise. Neither held accountable to tell the truth.

It's because the United States of America is so gloriously large.
 
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Rolling resistance of tires is a huge factor in mpg.


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Lots-o-resistance ^^^
 
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Honestly, I drive this automobile so little and enjoy it so much when I do, I couldn't care less about the MPG. Red Pony is rated by SPG. Smiles Per Gallon.
 
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what car is that chance? its sharp looking
 
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Honestly, I drive this automobile so little and enjoy it so much when I do, I couldn't care less about the MPG. Red Pony is rated by SPG. Smiles Per Gallon.
I took a serious look at the Mitsubishi Mirage G4 (company's fancy way of saying the sedan version). Great MPG. The sedan version isn't bad looking. Has a couple of unexpected features. Very affordable. Extremely easy to get financing. Still a sub-compact so easy to park anywhere. Then I took a look at the 0-60 numbers....

13 seconds flat. Now I get it, some might not realize what that means. Very first car I ever owned was a 1998 Ford Escort sedan. Bought used. Had it tested at a shop one day. 0-60 in 13 1/2 seconds. Perfectly fine as a commuter vehicle in the city, driving on city streets only. On the highway or expressway, it couldn't get out of its own fast enough. Definitely not fun white knuckling it down the entrance ramp to the expressway when everyone already on it is doing 70 mph.

I'll be replacing my sporty sedan in a year or two. But yeah, I can't go back. I'd feel dead inside. Got to have those smiles and thrills.
 
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I'll be replacing my sporty sedan in a year or two. But yeah, I can't go back. I'd feel dead inside. Got to have those smiles and thrills.

You’re going to love your 1 ton dually with 1,000 ftlbs of torque
 

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