Human powered (Bicycle Generator) project

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One of the members of the Alternative Energy club at my community college, a physics instructor, has a cabin up in Big Santa Anita Canyon that he shares with his friends on some weekends.

He would like to add some lights and a pair of cigerett lighters for powering a laptop and recharging a cellphone. The original plan was two 18 watt DC powered RV flourescent lamps plus the mentioned power outlets for the laptop and charger. He plans to have a 50ah SLA battery that will be topped off with a 20 watt Solar panel.

The human powered part we want to incorporate into the system is a bicycle trainer stand with a generator attached to it. We are still deciding on what the generator part will be; probably a DC motor although we've also though about using a motorcycle alternator. What I have trouble finding is some sort of inexpensive charge controller or voltage regulator to use since he is afraid to pedal too fast and fry something or overcharge the battery.

I've used a bicycle generator before on a demonstration by Socal Edison which shows how compact flourescent lamps use less energy than incandescant bulbs (Obviously, it took less effort to power all four 13 watt CFLs than two 50 watt bulb) I could probably run two incandescant lamps at most for a few hours but lighting up all four incandescant bulbs (200 watts) took a lot of effort (like going up a hill on a one speed bike). I didn't remember the generator used but I noticed a large capicator in the circuit which then goes directly to the panel with the switches and light sockets.

Being a cyclist as well, our professor said he could probably do 200 watts for an hour and around 100 continously average. Idealy, a workout in the morning will be used to fill up the battery then the solar panel will top off the charge the rest of the day.

Think this system will work or do we need to add a little more capicity? The cabin is a 4 mile hike from the nearest point accessable by car and he prefers not to replace a 43 pound lead acid battery too often once we set it up.
 
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There must be inexpensive regulator circuits around. I'm not up enough on current electronics to say. The one suggestion I have is at least fairly cheap and very easy. My old Triumph motorcycle had a Zener Diode attached to a large heatsink that bled off any current over the desired voltage.

Good luck. It sounds pretty interesting.
 
I would recommend www.homepower.com first off

What about using an alternator? They have regulators and diodes already in them. Most GM ones are single wire. Just ground to the housing.

As for petaling, you need to get the gearing right. Its going be hair pulling to make it work. You really need a 21 gear bike and mount it to a support with rollers on the back to spin the generator or alternator.

As for a regulator, what about those solar panel regulators? They regular the power to use to charge the batteries. What about charge controllers? Dont them help keep the voltage and amps in line for optimun charging?

I guess for making this easy, we need to know all the info. We need either watts of everything or amps and voltage to figure it out. 18 watt lights? 12 volts? 1.5 amps an hour 20 watt solar panel? How much direct sun light, how many hours? 12 volts? 1.66 amps an hour. 50 amp battery, 12 volts? 600 watts.

So, you would need 30 hours at least of direct sun light to fully recharge the battery. You can power one 18 watt light for 33.3 hours.

Be conservative here. Add in extra time to recharge and subtract time for run times.

If you were me, I would go for a larger or extra solar panels, maybe more battery capacity. The less you suck down of a batteries capacity before recharge, the longer it will last til it needs replacing.
 
An auto alternator is ridiculously inefficient, you'll pedal alot less if you go with a permanant magnet motor like you were considering. I used to lurk at an alternative energy forum, and it seems to still be up. You might search their archives or ask directly.


Cheers. :buddies:
 
sounds like an interesting and fun project!

As others mentioned, I'm betting that a lot of effort has been spent on this in the past, so a bit of research would be a good way to avoid repeating mistakes.

The step is to figure out what the requirements of the generator are: how many volts and how many amps. Then find a good permanent magnet motor or generator that can deliver at least this much. The mechanical issues associated with connecting pedals to the generator are not trivial. A good chain drive will be much more efficient than belts or running a drum against a tire, not to mention being much quieter!

The question of what electronics to use to regulate the battery charging. I'm betting that the home power folks have stuff available, but I'd consider it a prime opportunity to putter around with a 'scope and soldering iron. 🙂

Steve K.
 
I would say get a circuit that has a charging indicator that will tell you the voltage/charge you are putting into the battery while you are pedaling so you can adjust on the fly. If you have a large enough battery I don't think you are going to easily overcharge it quickly and the meter/indicator should suffice well enough.
I had a bicycle alternator once I think? They make make alternators for bicycles and you may need to either see about two in series (if that will work) for 12v or a boost circuit consisting of either a transformer (for AC) with rectification or a DC/DC step up circuit as the generator/alternator may not be high enough voltage to charge a 12v SLA. If you have a portable nimh battery charger you could recharge some 1.5v batteries off the SLA if you got the battery topped off early to bleed off excess for additional *excersize*
 
You should email Darrel, he has a solar system on his house he uses to recharge his electric suv. I think its a grid tie system with no batteries, but hes a really super, terriffic, awesome guy and knows everything.
 
http://www.windstreampower.com/humanpower/hpginfo.html

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maybe you could get some tips from these folx..
 
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I remember reading in some car magazine that the alternator sucks 5-10 horsepower from your engine.

I think people can put out 1/4 horsepower. I'm not sure how much success you will have with a car alternator.
 
Regarding that bike generator--they want ~$500 for 125 watt output (by foot power)... That is roughly the cost of a 125 watt solar panel (granted, Solar Panels are pretty hard to get and a bit pricey right now)... Assuming that he can place the panel in a sunny location (which he must, if he can get a 20 watt panel, at close to $200 list, to work).

-Bill
 
Well, it turns out Professor Wolf already owns a 20 watt solar panel. The panel will just be used for maintaining the charge throughout the day but the majority of power for charging will be the bicycle generator.

We got the motor today; it's an Ametek #965922-102 from C & H sales rated 38 volts 12 amps maximum 900 RPMs with a 100 oz load. When we tested it by spinning it on a drill press with a variable resistor as a dummy load, we got 4.5-5.5 amps from 12 to 14 volts DC at the output. I think we were spinning it at around 1000 rpms. Open circuit voltage was probably around 22-26 volts.

Pics comming.
 
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