I don't need, but I want a new EDC :-D

[Djonah Inc.]

Owkay....
I've been EDCing an ld10 for almost 2 years now. I really love the light, but I do miss some things on it.

The new light should have the missing link the ld10 doesn't have: moonlight/firefly mode...

I've looked around, but...I can't choose...

some of the contenders (no particular order):
- jetbeam RRT-0
- thrunite neutron 1A
- quark AA
- zebralight sc51
- enlighten me :devil:

I'm more of a "long runtime is better than highest lm count" so the quark an zebra get a + for that... If I want a ton of light, I'll just get my tk35...
The quark is cool because of the lego-factor.
The RRT is swwwwwweeeeet just because of looks (rotary ring), it has a small lego factor and it has a reverse clicky...never know when it might be useful... A big con is the runtime...
The neutron is a bit boring if you ask me...but hey, I could be wrong :tired:

I think I should get more than one, don't I Oh boy... the girlfriend won't be happy with that 😳

 

[Vortus]

In the same price range as the RRT-0 is the HDS 120. Everything you want and then some.

4 preset brightness settings: turn-on: 15 lumens, press-and-hold: 120 lumens, double-click: 42 lumens, triple-click: 0.3 lumens. Or you can program it yourself.

 

[Djonah Inc.]

turn-on: 15 lumens

that way the firefly is useless...you get blinded before you can get to the moonlight mode...
Owkay, I would be able to program it, that's true, but I think the hds looks boring... and for that money I would buy the sc600 that looks way less boring and has a bit more punch... but it's not an RA...

 

[alohasurftoad]

Sunwayman V10R

 

[Djonah Inc.]

Sunwayman V10R

Ah, that's one I left out...
runtimes equal to the jetbeam, but no firefly...
that's why I didn't end up in the list...

 

[alohasurftoad]

what exactly is firefly? i thought firefly and moonlight are similar modes. i think the swm v10r low is 1 lumen. there is also the Nitecore IFE1.

 

[Djonah Inc.]

jup, firefly = moonlight, but 1lm is still too much for pitch dark surroundings...
there's a thread around here about what the most useful amount of light should be in moonlight/firefly...
most claim that 0,7 is still too much ;-)

the nitecore ife1 is a nice light too...missed that one 😗
Still, the runtimes aren't really wow...same as with the jetbeam RRT0...

 

[kreisler]

rrt0 looks nice and is a very long/bulky torch for what it is.
the quark AA is highly functional.
everyone should own 1 zebralight because it's the most discussed brand on cpf.

 

[aimxplode]

Although it may be on the bigger side, I prefer the RRT-0.
The quark requires discoing through modes, with the exception of the tactical, but then you only get 2 modes. The SC51 requires lockout, otherwise it might accidentally switch on in your pocket.

 

[OCD]

+1 for the HDS. Don't let "boring" looks keep u from owning one of the best lights out there.

My second choice would probably be the RRT0 for its ability to use CR123, RCR123, AA, 14500 (with the optional extender).

A very close third is the Quark. They are very versatile and lego-able.

I own all 3 of these...the RRT started as my edc (the Quark is a 2AA model and wasn't bought to be an edc) but now my HDS is in my pocket every day as my RRT sits on my dresser as a backup. I think boring is BEAUTIFUL!

 

[think2x]

It looks like all your choices are AA format. I bought the RRT0 S2 and the Sunwayman V10A almost the same week and of the two I like the V10A better.
The V10A is shorter than the RRT0 (in AA format)
The ramping is smoother on the V10A and goes ALMOST as low (but still lower than my HDS)
The V10A has NO STROBE (a plus for me.)

 

[Djonah Inc.]

rrt0 looks nice and is a very long/bulky torch for what it is.
the quark AA is highly functional.
everyone should own 1 zebralight because it's the most discussed brand on cpf.

Thanks for the heads up about the rrt0, that's another con for the rrt0 :shakehead

I'm still waiting (like a lot of you here) for the h502... I'm already waiting for 6 months on that darn light...

The sc51 looks like a real nice light, but would it be smart to get and the sc51 and a 502? If it is just for the moonlight, then I don't see the use for it...on the other hand, the sc51 is one hell of a small light...
I'll buy the 502 when it comes out (whatever the lady here says 😗)
The sc600 is on the "want" list too (just for fun as the most compact powerhouse and the insane moonlight runtimes :huh🙂 Only problem is that it's sold out everywhere here in Europe...
So I need to wait no matter what...

The HDS looks boring, it's pretty expensive for a light with only 120 lm. Why is everybody raving about those Ra/HDS? Enlighten me

Regarding battery choice: I just like the AA form factor and I have a bunch of eneloops lying around here. I like the 18650's too, but the sc600 is the only one (in my opinion) small enough to be EDC worthy.
I've got no 123's at home, so that is another extra cost if I go for rcr123's.
Tell me some more plusses about the 123's and I'll be sold 😳

So the choices are narrowed down to:
- wait some more
- quark (hmm, which one, the 123 with an extra AA body? the AA
- find a place where they have an sc600
- HDS

For now, it looks like I'll be buying 3 lights in the near future
HDS (If you can enlighten me enough :thumbsup🙂 or a quark
sc600 if flashaholics gets it in stock
the 502 when it comes out........


DAMM YOU CPF
Now I just have to find out how to tell it to the lady of the house... She told me:"You're not getting new lights, you've got more than enough!!"

 

[think2x]

HDS is built like a TANK and has more settings than ANY other light like........auto turn off (10 minutes on the older ones) locator flash, lockout to prevent accidental turn on......etc. You should really read about it. It took me a year to talk myself into getting one and I have no regrets.

 

[OCD]

Also, HDS has a lifetime warranty with some or the best customer support available.

 

[Jrubin]

Ah, that's one I left out...
runtimes equal to the jetbeam, but no firefly...
that's why I didn't end up in the list...

Well on my v10r the low is way lower than 1 lumen. I think it's around .04/.05 range. It's lower than my thrunite Ti which is rated at .04 otf lumens

 

[kreisler]

The HDS looks boring, it's pretty expensive for a light with only 120 lm.

and it is not a light-weight (grams).
If you *really* need your lights (i own 8 lights, all with a smallish form factor incl the Eagtac T20) for very very serious professional use and you know it really has to undergo extreme conditions (several drops bezel down, etc.), then i would too look into the boring&heavy HDS. I've heard that they are among the best lights you can buy.

i dont have any professional or dead-serious use for my eight lights. I just wanted to have them, great allrounders, useful, versatile, with all kinds of accessories (or even lego), good to have, and easy to carry e.g. on the keychain. i wouldnt regret buying a HDS .. but i also never regretted having bought any of my eight lights. And i certainly use them all. In my personal case, i wouldnt gain anything of real interest by buying/owning/using a HDS.

And for tough & rough use, i would probably "EDC" something like a Rayovac Indestructible. 15bucks and 9meters drop shock resistance.

HDS is built like a TANK and

Give me your HDS and i will let it drop 10 times bezel down (in perfect 90° angle to the floor) onto our marble-tiled floor from 9 meters. i bet 100$ that the glass lens of the HDS will break. TANK OR NOT, the HDS glass lens will break. (but not of the Rayovac because they jump haha)

 

[JohnnyBravo]

Thinking of getting that JetBeam RRT-0 XM-L. Looks like it'll use AA: carbon zinc, Alkaline, Lithium, NIMH; Li-Ion/IMR 14500, CR123, and a RCR123. Nice versatility.

 

[swan]

RRT0 or pc10-both 550 lumen . Imo any thing less than 200 lumens just isnt good enough for edc with recent led advancements. One year from now 200 lumens will be one of the low settings.

 

[OCD]

RRT0 or pc10-both 550 lumen . Imo any thing less than 200 lumens just isnt good enough for edc with recent led advancements. One year from now 200 lumens will be one of the low settings.

I think this is where many of us will agree to disagree. Without getting into what size light (and battery) qualifies as EDC, I have NEVER found myself in a situation where my 200lm EDC has not been bright enough. As a matter of fact, I can't recall the last time I had to use all 200lm in a typical EDC situation. But it is only a button push away if needed. You also say "....anything less than 200 lumens just isn't good enough....with recent led advancements..." So you're implying that you shouldn't get brand "A" just because it has less lumens than brand "B", even though brand "A" may meet all your requirements but just isn't as bright as brand "B"?:thinking:

 

[Vortus]

I can understand buying by looks. Not fond of the zebra lights look myself though they are great lights.

Pretty sure Henry at HDS has dropped them on marble and pretty much everything else they could find. Hogukustan (prob off on the name but makes nice leather stuff) shot his with a gun.

Rather than three or more, you might as well take the custom plunge.