I see "made in China" everywhere..

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Ever since I discovered this forum and discovered all the high end flashlight manufacturers, I was surprised to see so many are actually from China (Fenix, Sunwayman, Nitecore, Jetbeam and a load of other manufacturers). I know from personal experience when it comes to most other products, if it's made in China, it's usually cheaply made products, and many people would agree. Are Chinese flashlights good quality? I am just having a hard time (from personal experience and common knowledge) connecting things such as high quality product with a "made in china" sticker.
 
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There are still plenty of lights made in China that are cheap junk.

Individual brands are the way to go. I have several Fenix lights that have served me well. Especially my LD05 model. My only titanium light is a Quark Mini CR123 model. Very happy with it. The iTP EOS A3 is the best overall AAA keychain light currently out there. It's all about brand reputation. Some choose to go for it, but others don't. DX for example mainly sells cheap junk. The prices are attractive. But usually we see posts from new members about how their DX lights crapped out on them. It happens all the time. Once in awhile you get a DX light that is good. But that's not too common.

I love my SureFires, and am currently up to 23. I love quality lights. And that's what my American-made SureFires are. But there are indeed some very well made lights coming out of China. But stick with brands that have established reputations.
 
As with most manufactured products, a product can only be of good quality with sufficient labour, materials, tools and Quality Control (QC). Of those 4 things China can pretty much be guaranteed to have sufficient Labour, materials and Tools, with QC being the main variable.

Flashligh companies which I believe have the magic "4's" are (I think CPFers in general will agree with me) Fenix, Nitecore, 4Sevens, Zebralight etc.

P.S. Most "high end" things are made in china or any other nation which boasts relatively low costs of production (your fully sick LCD TV was probably made in China, I know mine was, lol).

Jeremy.
 
I prefer buying stuff made in Western countries but I am tempted to try stuff like the Sunwaysomethingwhatsitsfaces and the Jetbeams. I'm attracted to selector rings and not a lot of manufacturers do them. :(
 
I avoid Made in China products as much as I can.
This forum and it's admins are VERY pro China and it's hard to say anything negative without being criticized or worse.

That being said, I will happily pay twice as much for a similar product that was made in N.A. or Europe over any third world country.

I have a dozen or so Surefire lights and they are all absolutely fantastic.
I have 1 M.I.C. Light, (glo-tube) and it's junk.

Even among the 'reputable' M.I.C. manufacturers here there are countless disappointed customers and DOA lights.
 
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This is an interesting topic for me....i'm new here, but I'm always in favor of buying american made/designed products.

So Nitecore is M.I.C.? i'm still doing research here but is Mag & Surefire the main U.S. made lights? I'm hoping to add a few Surefire's to the collection but the prices make me think twice.
 
Ra/HDS. Malkoff. Surefire. McGizmo. Peak.

All great, all USA made, but may contain Asian electronics/emitters.

47's is the only China lights I buy. :thumbsup:
 
All my modified lights are mainly made with chinese parts (hosts, emitters, drivers, batteries etc) but I make them myself in my home so i guess they are 'Made in Sweden' :whistle:
 
I can't seem to find it now but someone posted a link to an article a while back, it was about some Russian dude who went to the Fenix production factory in China and got shown around. It seemed to me that quality control was a high priority for Fenix.

From my own experience with my one fenix torch (P1D) quality is very good. Its been strapped to my bag for 2 years solid, it's been through all weather and I have a bad habit of just tossing my bag on the ground, so it's sustained some knocks, and it's never failed me yet.

So yeah, I would say China is capable of high quality products. I guess it's the company paying for the manufacturing who chooses the quality and if they want to pay for it.
 
My Fenix P3D has seen some serious action, being dropped onto paved roads from my bike at high speed etc. Still works flawless. I had an issue with my Fenix LD01-driver but this was resolved by 4sevens without any hassle. All in all Fenix strikes me as very high quality products. Then again I do not yet own a SureFire to compare with.
 
"Made in China" is everywhere because now it is where all "our" factories were gone.
Actually China is investing massively in basic research. Guess what is going to happen in 10 years ?


KentS said:
All my modified lights are mainly made with chinese parts (hosts, emitters, drivers, batteries etc) but I make them myself in my home so i guess they are 'Made in Sweden' :whistle:
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Nope, "Made in Sweden from Imported Parts" or "Assembled is Sweden". :devil:
 
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I thought equaling 'Made in China' with 'Low Quality' was a thing of the past. These days China is where it's at, not just in Flashlights, but in electronics in general. In fact I think pretty soon they'll have cornered the market in mass produced electric vehicles as well.
 
TX180SX said:
This is an interesting topic for me....i'm new here, but I'm always in favor of buying american made/designed products.

So Nitecore is M.I.C.? i'm still doing research here but is Mag & Surefire the main U.S. made lights? I'm hoping to add a few Surefire's to the collection but the prices make me think twice.
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Don't hesitate.
The prices are higher, sure, but you're getting quality, supporting local business and you get a lifetime guarantee.
Also it just works, the first time, every time.
 
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