I want THROW! help me decide... Waiting for the NEW "KING OF THROWERS" to be released

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I want THROW! help me decide... Waiting for the NEW "KING OF THROWERS" to be released

Hey Guys,

Been researchin' all day... I want a really good thrower and was just about set on the DBS but have looked into it more and now I'm confused...
DBS, MRV, Tiablo, Spear







My needs...
  • Multi Level would be great but not a neccesity
  • 18650's are fine but i will be travelling overseas so it would need to also be able to take 123's and run well on them
  • The Tiablo seems lighter than the DBS which I guess would be a bonus in a travel pack
  • I really love the look of the spear but it cant take 123's I believe
  • Not concerned about flood just want throw
  • Upgradable would be great
so anyway... before I commit to the DBS and click to the checkout I was just after some thoughts?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

Buy the DBS, you can use a lot of third party dropins in it, just unscrew the upper part of the head and take it out and change the dropin pill. That way you can use the cells you like in it and also easily swap between dropins.

There are pics here of what I mean about pills in the DBS and how easy it is to change between dropins.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=190499

The Tiablo is nice, but it's best if you can mod it to be satisfied with it.

The Spear is also very nice, but no easy upgrades exist to my knowledge. You need to mod it yourself to run CR123.

/Stefan
 
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A 18650 has pretty much exactly the same capacity as 2xCR123A, so IMO you'd be better off with a universal charger, rather than splashing out on CR123's in advance.
 
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I have the DBS with a 1S Q2 5A (much warmer than the Q5 pills). It is a truly impressive outdoors.

I much prefer a single stage pill in a THROW light. I had the 3SD pill in the DBS to start with but found no need for low and medium power in a light with such a tight beam. I also like to use momentary without the levels changing. (I think a single stage thower + a multi level headlamp is a good combo. )

It's hard to get something that with run really well with 18650 and cr123. The DBS digital pills are for one 18650/17670 only. If you go for the other pills that can use cr123 you get reduced output/regulation on 18650.
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

Hey harddrive I new you were on pills and now I know which ones!!! ha ha ha
Sorry couldn't help myself :nana:
mulder89
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

StefanFS said:
Buy the DBS, you can use a lot of third party dropins in it, just unscrew the upper part of the head and take it out and change the dropin pill. That way you can use the cells you like in it and also easily swap between dropins.
/Stefan
Click to expand...

I agree with StefanFS,
IMHO the swap possibility like the upgradeability between dropins is very important , among flashlights above reported,
I suggest the DBS.
dscf3714an6.jpg
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

I'd go for the DBS and a universal charger. You can have a back up pill for times when you need to use CR123s.
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

Hey, if ur on a budget, i suggest the Tiablo A9, from lighthound, their currently only 65 bucks! and they already sold out their black ones, so they only have natrual finish left....
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

Raidfire's Spear is quite a thrower - I really like mine... (no pun intended). They're listed on 4-7's site; although I don't know if they have any in stock.
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

Ctrain said:
My needs...
  • Multi Level would be great but not a neccesity
  • 18650's are fine but i will be travelling overseas so it would need to also be able to take 123's and run well on them
  • The Tiablo seems lighter than the DBS which I guess would be a bonus in a travel pack
  • I really love the look of the spear but it cant take 123's I believe
  • Not concerned about flood just want throw
  • Upgradable would be great
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They don't come any throwier than the DEFT.
It takes easy to find AAs and its upgradeable. It is bigger than the Tiablo or DBS though so no pocketing it.
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

The DBS is your light. You don't get any better in terms of upgradeability - it takes P60 dropins, so pretty much any dropin will fit it. And it is the furthest thrower of the LEDs with reflectors. The A9 and MRV aren't close to its throw. The Spear is noticeably less, although not too much, but can't take CR123s, like you said.

saablusters aspheric is probably the furthest throwing LED in existence. However, it violated some of your other conditions. saabluster has provided several information threads.
 
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I came to the light... said:
The DBS is your light. You don't get any better in terms of upgradeability - it takes P60 dropins, so pretty much any dropin will fit it.
Click to expand...

CL1H takes P60 not DBS!
With 3SM pill you have no regulation using 18650.
DBS has more throw "fresh out of box". Spear is focusable amd you can set it to the same or slightly better throw than DBS.
 
Re: I want THROW! help me decide...

Not anymore.
The Spear is now only available with a textured reflector - no more smooth reflectors are available. DX shows one with a smooth reflector, but it also says "2-5 days".... which basically means backorder, which means no more smooth reflectors are available. Unfortunately, it's now the Smear. :(

I had my mind set on getting one too, but ended up going with a DBS v2.
 
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It should be the class leader for throw - it was built to do that - but as I don't have a proto/sample (or a DBS for that matter) it would be unfair to say it was better - I'll leave that up to the revewiers here. :)
 
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