IMR Setups

[Mark@LF]

Hi Guys,

There has been many questions and speculations on the new IMR setups, so I would just like to talk about it with you guys so no lamp will instaflash when it doesn't have to.

To moderators: If this is not an appropriate forum, please move the thread accordingly.

Here are some setups that we have tested and should work with no problems.

1 Cell Setups: EO-4 , EO-E1R.
2 Cell Setups: EO-9, EO-9L, EO-M3, EO-M3T, HO-R5, EO-E2R.
3 Cell Setups: EO-13, HO-M6R.

All of the above setups will have no problems used with a clickie tailcap, but we do recommend using a twisty tailcap for the IMR setups.

Please do not use 12V lamps on a 3 cell setup.

Cheers,

Mark

 

[cl0123]

...so no lamp will instaflash when it doesn't have to.

1 Cell Setups: EO-4 , EO-E1R.
2 Cell Setups: EO-9, EO-9L, EO-M3, EO-M3T, HO-R5, EO-E2R.
3 Cell Setups: EO-13, HO-M6R.

Mark,

Thanks for the information, I appreciate the that. In fact, I just made through another weekend without a blown bulb.

I'll be tuning in on the 2 cell setups, for sure. :twothumbs

Edit: Looking forward to the release of the IMR lamps as well.

With Aloha,

Clarence

 

[brighterisbetter]

Looking forward to the release of the IMR lamps as well.

+1

 

[Mungon]

Originally Posted by cl0123
Looking forward to the release of the IMR lamps as well.

+ 2 :twothumbs

 

[cenz]

hi mark,

Are these lamps just only for IMR-16340 / and IMR18650?

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

Great stuff Mark!

 

[Brizzler]

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All of the above setups will have no problems used with a clickie tailcap, but we do recommend using a twisty tailcap for the IMR setups.

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Why are twisties not recommended...?!?

 

[bxstylez]

it says he DO recommend using a twisty

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[Mark@LF]

Yes, we DO recommend Twisties if you have it and if you only have a Clicky then you can also use them on the above setups.

I say this because the Clicky setup is a NONO on the newer IMR lamp series, but for the above setups, you still CAN use a clicky. (Although we recommend the twisty for any IMR setups)

Cenz,

No, the above lamps has been around for a long time now and they are designed for the common CR123A and non-IMR 3.7V rechargeables. I am just clarifying to people that if they want to use IMR setups then that's how they should use them. I posted these setups so people do not have to go "Trial and Error" with the new IMR battery setups and kill their lamps for no reason.

 

[brighterisbetter]

Mark, I hope this isn't too off topic, but I've got a quick question for you.

EDIT - PM replied thanks.

 

[Mark@LF]

Yes, it is kind of off topic.
So I will PM you on this.

Thanks.

Mark

 

[Brizzler]

Special achievement on my part, misreading your post Mark, sorry

 

[Stage Tech]

Mark ,
Just to clear my brain ,
My SF M2 comes with a press for momentary on / twist for constant light locked on.
I now use a Click on lock out tailcap , so I don't have to twist when I need always on .
With the new IMR setup , i can only use the original one ? What's the difference between momentary on use , and a click on tailcap ?
Or we cannot momentary on anymore with these new setups ?
I'm a LITTLE Confused with how can I use these new setups with my M2.
Thanks , and sorry for the mess ,
Regards
Julian

 

[shomie911]

Mark ,
Just to clear my brain ,
My SF M2 comes with a press for momentary on / twist for constant light locked on.
I now use a Click on lock out tailcap , so I don't have to twist when I need always on .
With the new IMR setup , i can only use the original one ? What's the difference between momentary on use , and a click on tailcap ?
Or we cannot momentary on anymore with these new setups ?
I'm a LITTLE Confused with how can I use these new setups with my M2.
Thanks , and sorry for the mess ,
Regards
Julian

The Clicky tailcap, when used with the soon to be release lamp assemblies for the new IMR rechargeable battery cells, will likely fail under the high-amp draw.

Twisty/Momentary tailcaps can operate under much higher-amp conditions.

Just to be clear, as Mark said, all the lamp assemblies designed for regular li-ion rechargeables (including all the ones he listed at the top) will work fine with Clicky tailcaps.

It's just the unreleased ones for the IMR cells that you have to worry about when using Clicky tailcaps.

Hope that helps.

 

[Stage Tech]

So , the problem / Weak part in this setup is the tailcap ??
I tought it was the lamp that couldn't handle a instant or continuous on / off.
Is the click on lock-out tailcap in my surfire weaker than the twist one in wich way ?
Thanks
Julian

 

[shomie911]

So , the problem / Weak part in this setup is the tailcap ??
I tought it was the lamp that couldn't handle a instant or continuous on / off.
Is the click on lock-out tailcap in my surfire weaker than the twist one in wich way ?
Thanks
Julian

No the lamp is fine being used momentarily / instant on and off.

The "clicky" tailcap has electronics inside that cannot handle what the IMR cells are capable of giving under a high-amp draw.

The "twisty" tailcap has no electronics and is much simpler.

 

[Stage Tech]

Interesting !
Thanks

 

[foxtrot29]

Any plans for an LED for the E-series?? That would be amazing.

 

[Bullzeyebill]

No the lamp is fine being used momentarily / instant on and off.

The "clicky" tailcap has electronics inside that cannot handle what the IMR cells are capable of giving under a high-amp draw.

The "twisty" tailcap has no electronics and is much simpler.

There are no electronics in the SF clicky tailcap. It is a mechanical switch. Contact points move when the switch is activated, allowing current to flow.

Bill

Bill

 

[Stage Tech]

So , is the surefire click on tailcap an exception ?