DM51
Flashaholic
Would it still flash with AW's soft-start?
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M.S
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I flashed 2 or 3 Fm1794:s with normal AW 18650:s when I got my first FM 2x18650 tube... But I'm interested in the soft start option too, my switch is in the mail...
DM51
Flashaholic
The higher current capability of the IMRs has a downside of less voltage sag, which will flash bulbs if they are on their limit. mdocod's post confirms that is the case with the FM1794, which is OK on IMR16340s but not with IMR18650s. Of course, less voltage sag is not a downside but a definite upside if the bulb can handle the higher voltage, as it means a brighter light.
Bullzeyebill
Flashaholic
There are those that say the P91 and MN16 are the same bulb, but I am not so sure. Maybe potting is different. I can't find my MN16, but it is frosted too, while the P91 is not frosted. I think that the MN LA's are more robust than the P LA's.
Bill
Nite
Enlightened
ahh wheres this soft start switch and how much is it?
SO less runtime, and itll burn out my switch.
its safer, thats it?
or for use with much higher wattage and voltage bulbs, but at much lower runtimes, i guess.
I was excited for the 18650s but the 16340s have made an immediate smaller but brighter light.
one IMR in a 3P with an SF led.....or an EO 4
and two in a 6P with FM1794
At Least I have the bodies you need for these new cells.
I have spent so much money ....i have so many lights.
SO less runtime, and itll burn out my switch.
its safer, thats it?
or for use with much higher wattage and voltage bulbs, but at much lower runtimes, i guess.
I was excited for the 18650s but the 16340s have made an immediate smaller but brighter light.
one IMR in a 3P with an SF led.....or an EO 4
and two in a 6P with FM1794
At Least I have the bodies you need for these new cells.
I have spent so much money ....i have so many lights.
DM51
Flashaholic
I believe they are pretty much the same actual bulb, although obviously the assemblies are different so there may be different resistances which could account for slight variations in performance.
mdocod
Flashaholic
I'm trying to remember if I have already commented on this or not.... But it would be recommendation to avoid the MN16, MN11, P91, and 1794 on 2xIMR18650 configurations as they are all going to be pushed really hard like that.
Tell ya what... I have a P91 here that doesn't work quite right.... It runs fine for like 10 seconds, and then when it heats up, a connection somewhere is broken within the assembly somewhere and I don't care to bother trying to fix it. In that first 10 seconds it behaves pretty normally... I'll load it up with a pair of my Emoli cells and see what happens...
Report coming soon...
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Rested cells at 4.11V per cell, no instaflash, noticeably brighter and whiter than any other batteries I've driven it with. Keeping in mind that this bulb may have a point of higher resistance somewhere in the electrical path that other P91s don't...
Now the question is... do I try the same test with fresh-from-the-charger cells? hmm....
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mdocod, I originally read your post incorrectly (#94) saying that the MN16 would flash, but the P91 was okay.
I now see the MN16 incompatibility was listed under the IMR18650 heading and the P91 is not listed at all under that.
I was planning on running MN16's and P91's on 17500 and 18500 IMR cells if they become available.
I now see the MN16 incompatibility was listed under the IMR18650 heading and the P91 is not listed at all under that.
I was planning on running MN16's and P91's on 17500 and 18500 IMR cells if they become available.
Bullzeyebill
Flashaholic
I think that AW's new soft start tailcap setup for the Surefire C,M,P series will allow us to run our P91, MN16's, and MN61's with fully charged hi cap 18650's regular, or the IMR 18650's, without danger of instaflash. Not sure though, but I will experiment when my AW tailcap mod shows up.
Bill
Bill
RyanA
Flashlight Enthusiast
I'm planning on trying this. Know anyone else who's tried it? Looks like it's within the cells specs.
These new li-mn cells are bringing me back to the dark side. the p7 and mc-e turned out to be a bit disappointing.
I can't wait to get 1000+ lumens out of my g3.:devil:
I hope it works...
so awesome.
i have a 9P with a FM1794 bulb and 2x18500 body.
i must say this small light rocks!
its one of my favorite lights!
is there a brighter setup i can choose? by looking at some of the setups here i think the 2x16340 body and 22W axil bulb is the way to go, but im not to sure!
i must say this small light rocks!
its one of my favorite lights!
is there a brighter setup i can choose? by looking at some of the setups here i think the 2x16340 body and 22W axil bulb is the way to go, but im not to sure!
DM51
Flashaholic
The 22W axial bulb needs 3x Li-Ion cells, not 2. 3x IMR16340 would fit in your 9P. It's a very interesting bulb. It gives a very good flood beam, not a spot beam at all. I wouldn't say it is noticeably brighter than the FM1794, but it is difficult to tell as the beam characteristics are so different.
DM51
Flashaholic
I think mdocod covers that in his great incan compatibility thread - you could look it up.
If you don't have a DMM, you should get one for checking the condition of your Li-Ion cells. It will give you an accurate indication of their state of charge.
If you don't have a DMM, you should get one for checking the condition of your Li-Ion cells. It will give you an accurate indication of their state of charge.
mdocod
Flashaholic
Hi cchurchi,
I know you have already read this but I'm going to link it here for others to see as well....
Wolf-Eyes Chargers with LiMn cells?
I know you have already read this but I'm going to link it here for others to see as well....
Wolf-Eyes Chargers with LiMn cells?
cchurchi
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Yes, and the information contained in the great incan compatibility thread was very useful, thanks!
Nite
Enlightened
You are so going to melt your light
