In/Outdoor Beamshots M6|LX2|E2DL|A2L|A2|U2|M60/W,M30|TK11|RRT-1|M30|M20|Jet-III|6PL

[DimeRazorback]

How much do you love the M6 Dime? Its one awesome light! Fit, finsih, the worksjust downright beautiful... Its a happy day when a Surefire arrives at the doorstep! They even have their own distinctive smell 🙂

I absolutely LOVE it 😀
The other I had the girlfriend cradling it while I drove :laughing:
And yes. I love the Surefire smell 🙂

Dime,
I have to say that your beam photos are the most useful that I have ever seen. Both close and medium range, they really tell the story.

Thanks you again for such a great job!

Thank you very much kwkarth!
I really appreciate the compliments and encouragement!

😀

I continue to do them in hopes that people will find them useful, so hearing so every now and then helps with motivation.

:thumbsup:

 

[G23fan]

I second that Dimerazor.
You have been extremely helpful in helping me choose my 1st light.
I must have reviewed your beamshots a thousand times and I know I PM'd you probably more than I viewed the beamshots..lol
I appreciate all of your insight.
I cannot wait to get receive my LX2 that I ordered today.

 

[DimeRazorback]

Thanks Mate! :thumbsup:

Nah, not a problem!
I always like to help people in any way I can!

Just wait for that LX2... you'll be blown away! :devil:

 

[ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond]

Those are great beamshots and they have proven that I probably don't need to get a M60 to compliment the M60W MC-E I got a day ago and the LX2 which just arrived today along with an E1L and 2 F04 diffusers.

Haven't had much time to play with them at work but will do so later on tonight until I get sleepy and have to call it a night (or the baby cries and call me to attention:sigh🙂.

Some initial thoughts:
-E1L - I really like the size of this light. It doesn't work on RCR123, only primary. Low and Hi are both pretty good levels so far.

-LX2 - Had to remove that aweful black ring at the tailcap!! Will not run on 2 RCR123s at all only primaries. Will run on one RCR123 though. Need to compare voltage and amperage tonight to see if it is regulated with one cell.

-The LX2 head fits on the E1L body with a single RCR123 cell and appears to be pretty bright. Only one level though.

 

[run4jc]

Some initial thoughts:
-E1L - I really like the size of this light. It doesn't work on RCR123, only primary. Low and Hi are both pretty good levels so far.

-LX2 - Had to remove that aweful black ring at the tailcap!! Will not run on 2 RCR123s at all only primaries. Will run on one RCR123 though. Need to compare voltage and amperage tonight to see if it is regulated with one cell.

FYI - I got 3 AW LiFePO4 3 Volt Lithium from Lighthound and have been successfully using 2 in my beloved LX2 and 1 in my E1B. I'm careful to charge them after a few uses - never letting them drop too low. So far, so good. They seem (not scientific, but I don't have any meters - yet) as bright as primaries. We'll see how they hold up in the long run. At $6+ a pop I'll be happy if they outlast 3 primaries - then I got my money's worth. From what I've read (this is a great post) they should be fine, but that statement is filled with disclaimers. But again, so far I am really pleased.
:thumbsup:

 

[ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond]

FYI - I got 3 AW LiFePO4 3 Volt Lithium from Lighthound and have been successfully using 2 in my beloved LX2 and 1 in my E1B. I'm careful to charge them after a few uses - never letting them drop too low. So far, so good. They seem (not scientific, but I don't have any meters - yet) as bright as primaries. We'll see how they hold up in the long run. At $6+ a pop I'll be happy if they outlast 3 primaries - then I got my money's worth. From what I've read (this is a great post) they should be fine, but that statement is filled with disclaimers. But again, so far I am really pleased.
:thumbsup:

Thanks for the advice - I actually figured out my problem too in parallel. In the E1L I still can't use the 3.7 RCR cells but with runtime being 8.5/45 hours and the fact I got 2 doz. free cells with my order I think I am okay for a while there.

On the LX2 I was actually using the AW IMR16340 cells which can push a lot of power and because of the extremely low internal resistance do not show a low enough V under load - so I guess I was tripping an overvoltage alert of the 200 lum setting. When I tried my AW RCR123 cells they worked flawlessly and I have been using them all week (still on first charge). Also have some Battery Station RCR123 900mAh cells - they work okay as well, but I have found they trip low voltage protection circuitry much faster under load than the AWs. Interestingly though I measured V(load) on fresh cells and it was 4.15 for the IMR and 4.05 for the AW RCR - so the LX2 over-voltage circuit must be very sensitive right in the area of 8.1-8.2V.

I'd rather not go down the road of 3.0v rechargeable LiIons - I already have quite an investment in 14500, 17670, 18650, RCR123 that I want to make use of those cells at this point.

 

[Jethro]

Count me in on the LX2 club. This light has an awesome beam pattern. With the F04 diffuser it lights up a whole room. Great light!

 

[woodrow]

Great pix. I am impressed by the LX2's beam....the Raptor has great throw....but one needs to keep it away from white walls. lol

Thanks for your hard work to take all these!

 

[tango44]

LX2

E2DL

Fenix TK11 R2

Jetbeam Jet-III Military R2

Great beam shot this is great comparison.

 

[stallion2]

thanks for the beam shots...i've been holding off asking for it for christmas but the M20 and M30 shots give me a great frame of reference. it looks like it should blow away my A9 (obviously in build and beam quality) but also in outright throw. might even out throw my DBS w/ the R2. i'll definitely get it now, it'll be my 2nd SF ever...the first was a G2 incan so thats one hell of a jump up.

can anyone direct me to a link about the TIR system? everything i've found thus far is vague, even SF's site hasn't been any help.

 

[T-3]

LX2 was sitting on my doorstep when I got home last night! M30 arrived a couple days ago... Just need to find the time to "play" now! Both very sweet lights! LX2 UI is different, but I think I'll grow to like it!

Thanks for the great beam shots DimeRazorback! :thanks:I'm new to this very addictive hobby, and have yet to do beam shots, but really want to try. My other hobby is photography, so once the weather warms up here a little, I would like to see what kind of beam shots I can get with my Nikon D700! 🙄

 

[brianch]

Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this comparison Very nice. You should do one more test with your best throwers and see which one throws the farthest. I have one question though, I am debating getting the RRT-1.. What are your thoughts on it? Is it usable at all close up? Is the beam too narrow? The M1X isn't that far of a stretch from the RRT-1 when it comes to price so I would'nt mind going for the M1X, but I prefer the styling on the RRT-1 and of course the smaller size.. If only they made a RRT-1 with a MC-E! Then with an extension for two 18650s! Like the TK30. That would be awesome.

 

[DimeRazorback]

Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it.

I have more updates to come, it is just hard to find the time.

I'm still searching for a good place to do some further distance beamshots near my house... yet to find a good place...

The RRT-1 can be used up close, it just doesn't work as well as a floody light, for the obvious reasons. Going by what you said, I would suggest you get the M1X :thumbsup:

 

[stallion2]

thanks for all those beamshots, i've used them for my own reference on several occasions. i was actually able to convince my father that getting the E2DL as a xmas present to me was not a "dumb" idea when i was able to show it to him w/ the M20 and M30 pics as a frame of reference.

the pics you have of the Malkoff's...the outdoor pics of the M60 w/ primaries and the other w/ an 18650...it looks as though it was slightly brighter w/ the primaries but there also seems to be a different tint so i'm not sure if thats what's throwing it off. am i seeing that correctly? i've been fooled by beamshots before.

 

[DimeRazorback]

No problem stallion :thumbsup:

The tint does not change, however the output when used with a single 18650 compared to 2xcr123's is rather significant, which is probably leading to it looking like a difference in tint.

Unless you were mistakenly looking at the M60W :nana:

 

[stallion2]

no confusion here...i definitely did not mix it up w/ the warm version...i'm not even that big a fan of 'warm' LEDs. i ordered an MD2 w/ M60 from Gene's site a couple weeks ago and then emailed him the following morning w/ some questions. he actually went to the throuble of calling me at work and left a Vmail while i was at lunch rather than replying which i thought was kinda cool. in any case i called him back and he explained that the M60 would work fine w/ a Li ion and the output would be a little lower but not to any degree that i could notice unless i was comparing two lights at once. i've had it for over a week now and i would say he's right...i've also run it on 2 RCR's w/out a noticeable change. i figure that'll be the cheapest way to run it w/out compromising output. would've preferred an M30 but no one seems to have them.

 

[DimeRazorback]

Yeah, it is definitely only noticeable upon direct comparison :thumbsup:

 

[stallion2]

any thoughts on the E2DL vs the LX2? i'm 99% sure i'll be ordering the E2DL in the next week but wanted to see if you had any preference of one over the other and why. other than the overall body shape and low modes of 5 vs 15 lumens, i can't think of why one would be better over the other.

 

[DimeRazorback]

Do you prefer the clicky interface or the twist/momentary interface?

Which pocket clip do you prefer?

Do you want to be able to use a lanyard?

Do you want knurling?

Do you want Black or Natural colouring?

Thats about it, personal preference.
I like them both equally and they both rotate in EDC duties... or I carry them both, one with an F04.

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

Do you prefer the clicky interface or the twist/momentary interface?

Which pocket clip do you prefer?

Do you want to be able to use a lanyard?

Do you want knurling?

Do you want Black or Natural colouring?

Thats about it, personal preference.
I like them both equally and they both rotate in EDC duties... or I carry them both, one with an F04.

+1!

They are both superb lights, there is no better or worse. Buy both!