In theory what type of reflector has more throw?

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Elliptical, Parabolic or Spherical with Fresnel lens? Is there any other method of redirecting the most photons to the business end of the light?

Have lights been made using the Elliptical and Fresnel? Which ones?

Thanks!
Alex
 
Was it a hard question? Any one wants to take a shot at it?

I remember seeing a few years back a light that looked like the ones used in the railroad in the early 1900's I think it was Rayovac IIRC that had a fresnel lens in it(IIRC again).

Thnx!
Alex
 
I have this one: (I couldn't get the image to work here.)

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Someone has mentioned that this is not a true Fresnel because the cuts are on the inside toward the light source. I'm sure the beam looks close to how the picture looks as long as you carry the required smoke machine. My experience is that it is one of the most articfact filled beams I've ever seen. I put a KPR113 in it, so now the beam is brighter and still ugly. If you lay it flat and drop a coffee filter upside-down on it you'll have a very nice room light. Great for when the power goes off.

Ugly as the beam is, I still like the light because of the thin form factor and the lens is interesting. Even though it is clear plastic it refracts outside light in such a way that, depending on the angle, some of the rings turn a teal color making it look like thick glass.

Interesting light, bad beam but interesting light.
 
Re: In theory what type of reflector has more thr

Note: the following ramblings are based upon the knowlede of a person who likes flashlights, but knows more about math than lights...

In theory, the parabola is great. If the bulb is placed at the "focus" of the parabola, all light rays which hit the reflector will go straight forward. In theory, you will get a perfect, smooth, even beam which will still be well-focused at 100 yards. Any light which goes toward the reflector will become part of the "spot," and any light which goes forward becomes part of the "spill." So this type of light will always have some spill. If you want more efficiency, you have to make your reflector larger, but at some point you will have to add a lot of reflector in order to get just a little extra light.

The problem is that "in theory" means having a bulb which glows brightly at one point. The problem is that bulbs have a long glowing piece of tungsten wire. Only ONE point of the wire will be in focus, and the rest of the fillament will be out of focus. This is the reason for artifacts in the beam, and why you use a faceted reflector to try to remove those artifacts. But the more you deviate from a parabola, the more you loose throw. On my Tigerlight (my best light), I can actually see the little spiral shape of the fillament in the beam.

The properties of an ellipse is that any light emitted at one focus point will be directed exactly toward the other focus point (A parabola is simply an ellipse with the other focus point infinitely far away). An elipse would be great for specific applications, such as knowing already how far away your target is. I would not choose one for general use, though. You also have the same "a bulb is not a pinpoint-source-of-light" problem as a parabolic reflector.

The spherical with a lens is a different animal entirely. The point is that you have the lens arranged so that any photons leaving the focal point and going to the lens will be focused (probably into a nice parallel beam). The problem is that, more than half of all light will NOT go through the lens. So the solution is to put a spherical reflector around the bulb. Any photons which go "backwards" are then reflected forwards, where they pass very near the bulb, and then hit the lens. This type of light can indeed be very nice and bright (in theory) if you use a standard lens (like you would find in a camera), and if you have a pinpoint source of light. I believe that this is the type of headlight used in some sports cars (but I could be wrong). Fresnel lenses are a compromise because they are not distortion free, but they are a lot thinner and lighter (and cheaper). Unfortunately, they might degrade the quality of the beam. This type of setup also has little to no spill light.
 
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