Interest Gauge Poll: "13V M style LA"

[mdocod]

First off.. this poll is in no way affiliated with LumensFactory, but I am hoping to reveal the potential market here (to them

I have mentioned it in other threads, and I think there is a lot of potential here for a big *hit* as far as products go.

ok... more details..

What I am asking here... is are you interested in a lamp assembly, like the MN15/16/20/21 design, but with bulbs mounted that are designed for 3xli-ion configurations. Like if LumensFactory were to take bulbs like their D36 HO-13 and EO-13 (400/700 lumen) and mount them on an "MN" style base.

Here's some example configurations:

1. M6 loaded with RCR123s
2. 3x18650 leefbody with SF turbo head (which currently lacks many options for lamps)

As it stands now, the options for these configurations aren't great, you can get a bi-pin socket MN style base, and loose the most important feature of a *built* LA, (that the bulb is held securely in position and will not "pop out" on recoil or when dropped) Or use a MN60/61 lamp and reduce lamp life to the point of being more of a toy and less of a tactical utility light.

So, are you interested ? please vote!


****note, the results of this poll in no way guarantee that any such lamp will ever be manufactured****

 

[DM51]

YES PLEASE!!!

 

[defusion]

I'd buy a M6 just for this.

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

I'd prefer to see a lamp for the M6 loaded with primaries.

 

[defusion]

I'd prefer to see a lamp for the M6 loaded with primaries.

they have the M3 series for that, though not officially supported.
and if you just want the brightest thing, there is the MN21
though something in between might be nice, between the MN20 and the MN21.
i'd still prefer the 13v though, as i can't imagine running the really high powered bulbs on primaries (especially when going trough sets of 6 every ~30min)

 

[BoomerSooner]

I would buy!!

 

[Spirit]

This is a must have...

 

[adamr999]

:rock:

 

[mdocod]

just for the record, I voted "might buy one someday" because I'm a poor guy who can't even afford a SureFire. someday though, lol...

keep the votes rolllin in.

 

[trouble]

Definetly! I'm hopelessly addicted to more lumens!!

 

[LED61]

I´m still not clear on what sort of target output would be on a 13V for the M6. If the stock MB20 is used, the RCR 123´s cannot handle a big drain rate very well. The MN21 puts out about 33-34 watts on fresh primaries for 630 torch lumens (6.8V x 4.9A). If 11V working voltage is used for a 13V on a double stack of RCR´s, you would need 3A total draw from two stacks, or 1.5A per stack to get the 33 watts. We´d have to see how well the RCR´s take 1.5 amp draw rate without diminishing cycles.
But, using Fivemegas larger cell holders and extenders, (3S2Px17670´s) you could get even greater output.

Pretty much, I guess I´d be content with 22-24 watt output in the M6 with RCR´s in the MB20. That would give about 400 torch lumens using 1.1A draw and maybe slightly better than 30 minute runtime ?

 

[defusion]

well, the EO series of bulbs are always right on the edge of what is possible with current battery technology.
so 1.5 amps out of a RCR123 should do the trick. yes it's on the edge, but thats the point! though a 13v X-LOLA style bulb would be nice too!
something with 2+ hours of runtime on rechargeables would be pretty nice, and adequate for most people. and it would increase the bulb life of the current X-LOLA M6 that is REALLY pushing the MN15. apparently causing a bulb life of 8-12 hours.

 

[LED61]

well, the EO series of bulbs are always right on the edge of what is possible with current battery technology.
so 1.5 amps out of a RCR123 should do the trick. yes it's on the edge, but thats the point! though a 13v X-LOLA style bulb would be nice too!
something with 2+ hours of runtime on rechargeables would be pretty nice, and adequate for most people. and it would increase the bulb life of the current X-LOLA M6 that is REALLY pushing the MN15. apparently causing a bulb life of 8-12 hours.

defusion, I think 1.5 amp draw from the little RCR´s will wear them down quicker than any of us like. I agree it safe, but detrimental to cell life. You would probably start to have unbalanced cells in the danger zone just after a few cycles, remember you need six of them.

 

[BoomerSooner]

My interest would lie in this type of example.........

3x18650 leefbody with SF turbo head (which currently lacks many options for lamps)

 

[pete7226]

I hope they end up making this. I would definitely buy a couple of these.

 

[mdocod]

hmmmm/.. musta lost my responce... had one put together to slide in here but it got lost to the forum gods or something... o well....
lol...


I was thinking more along the lines of an inbetween lamp, a EO-13 D36 bulb slapped on a MN assembly. The result would be something inbetween a MN20 and MN21 in power. In a M6, RCR123s would see 1.1A each, a nice zone to be in for those cells to keep things safe and reasonable. 30-35+ minute runtime.

In a 3x18650 host it would run about an hour, litterally the leef/SF build alternative to the WE 13V rattlestake.

MN20 is about a 19W deal
the inbetween lamp would be about 25W
MN21 is about a 33W deal

It would be fun to see a 3+amp monster for the 3x18650, but I suspect that the market for that nitch alone would be too small to go into a whole production over it...

 

[Spirit]

I too was hoping for the EO-13 and HO-13 technology to be transplanted into a M6-R lamp assembly.

Mark has mentioned before that this is not easy, as you can't just fit the bulb globe onto the M-series base. The filamant height is different for the M-series to the D36 series, so the lamp will not be in focus.

I guess you can use the filament technology, and apply the new M-series coating technology and then design a new filament height bulb globe. But this is a big amount of work...

So we have to prove the market for this Lamp Assembly is there...

 

[LED61]

I was thinking more along the lines of an inbetween lamp, a EO-13 D36 bulb slapped on a MN assembly. The result would be something inbetween a MN20 and MN21 in power. In a M6, RCR123s would see 1.1A each, a nice zone to be in for those cells to keep things safe and reasonable. 30-35+ minute runtime.

In a 3x18650 host it would run about an hour, litterally the leef/SF build alternative to the WE 13V rattlestake.

MN20 is about a 19W deal
the inbetween lamp would be about 25W
MN21 is about a 33W deal

Mdocod, we´re thinking along same lines here.:twothumbs

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

hmmmm/.. musta lost my responce... had one put together to slide in here but it got lost to the forum gods or something... o well....
lol...


I was thinking more along the lines of an inbetween lamp, a EO-13 D36 bulb slapped on a MN assembly. The result would be something inbetween a MN20 and MN21 in power. In a M6, RCR123s would see 1.1A each, a nice zone to be in for those cells to keep things safe and reasonable. 30-35+ minute runtime.

In a 3x18650 host it would run about an hour, litterally the leef/SF build alternative to the WE 13V rattlestake.

MN20 is about a 19W deal
the inbetween lamp would be about 25W
MN21 is about a 33W deal

It would be fun to see a 3+amp monster for the 3x18650, but I suspect that the market for that nitch alone would be too small to go into a whole production over it...

I'd like to have a bulb like that. I just hate the idea of having to recharge 6XRCR123 after only 30 minutes of runtime. I'd have to buy 3 separate chargers in order to charge all of them simultaneously though. What a pain...:mecry:

 

[NYCblue]

I'd love to have one! or two or three, this would rejuvenate my M6!!