Introducing the 007 Tri-V CPF

[Data]

How about a grid or screen for protection? It would be close enough to the emitter so that it might not cast a shadow but merely difuse the light a little. I think I'd rather have that than lose part of the coverage. I'm thinking lantern use. In any case, I'm excited about it and cant wait to get one.

Would you like threads around the MC-E so you could screw on attachments? 😉

 

[Data]

If putting them all under one lens is possible but difficult, would it be easier to do with two lenses?

Two heads or two emitters would be simpler.

 

[Data]

Nice with the bi ooseven you could make a magnetic ayspheric holder to switch optics around

Not to easy to do that. My XR-E is modded and would not be a good setup for a reflector. Also my aspheric is so close to the emitter that there is little room for a reflector.

There have been lights made in the past that had two different screw on heads but I never had one. Is it not a pain to have that stuff to drag around with you?

 

[Data]

. . . I know, Star Trek Geek!

 

[Linger]

Is it not a pain to have that stuff to drag around with you?

Screw-off head screws on somewhere else. (old military lights carrying coloured lenses + spare bulbs in the tailcap)
as long as it attaches, it's not extra gear

 

[Data]

that's a good point

 

[London Lad]

I don't like 'bits' to change so I vote for 3 separate leds and no screw thread.

I think the proto is great looking if you are happy with the function.

 

[Rudi]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudi
Dave, on the prototype you recently tested, how did you choose to program the six clicks?

Rudi, I will lay out what I did but it is by no means the best config for my liking. Have you thought about what you would try? If so please post it here and I may give it a spin.

At PF12 I had only one emitter on at a time. The code was hard wired cuz I did not have time to program anything else. So this is the only config I could play with and show to everybody.

Power level 1 was MC-E @ 3mA (flood)
Power level 2 was MC-E @ 30mA (flood)
Power level 3 was MC-E @ 1000mA (flood
Power level 4 was Rebel @ 250mA (reflector)
Power level 5 was Rebel @ 1000mA (reflector)
Power level 6 was XR-E @ 1500mA (aspheric)

The good: The Aspheric on level 6 is a winner. This really rocks and I don't see a need to have this on any other power level. It was set at 1500mA because I only have the one MK-II and I did not want to blow it up. However on the production board, I would set this at 2000mA with an auto cut back to 1000mA after a minute or so.

The bad: The flood starting on level 1 all by itself was just so different than a regular SPY that I did not get used to it yet. Maybe it would be better if the flood and the reflector were on together. Or maybe it would be better to start with a few levels of reflector only. I just do not know because I did not have time to try any other configurations yet.

The more I think about it the more options come to mind and I am anxious to try them all out. That can't happen right now because I riped the proto apart to do more testing on the MK-II. When we get done with the tests, Wayne will have a small batch of near production boards done and populated. Then I can try to blow a couple of them up. :tinfoil:


Cheers
Dave

I've been thinking about this for weeks Dave. The multiple combinations are mind-boggling. My initial attempt would probably be as follows:

Level 1. Reflector, very dim for bedroom navigation, perhaps + very dim flood, perhaps not.
Level 2. Reflector + flood, both medium low.
Level 3. Reflector + flood, both medium.
Level 4. Reflector alone, medium-high.
Level 5. Reflector high, perhaps + aspheric medium-high.
Level 6. Aspheric high.

Question is: will I like it better than my 007 which is just about perfect in its simplicity and versatility?

 

[Data]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudi
Dave, on the prototype you recently tested, how did you choose to program the six clicks?



I've been thinking about this for weeks Dave. The multiple combinations are mind-boggling. My initial attempt would probably be as follows:

Level 1. Reflector, very dim for bedroom navigation, perhaps + very dim flood, perhaps not.
Level 2. Reflector + flood, both medium low.
Level 3. Reflector + flood, both medium.
Level 4. Reflector alone, medium-high.
Level 5. Reflector high, perhaps + aspheric medium-high.
Level 6. Aspheric high.

Question is: will I like it better than my 007 which is just about perfect in its simplicity and versatility?

The emitters are all about the same Vf. When two or three of them are on at the same time their relative brightness is fixed. You can't drive one higher with higher voltage and one with lower voltage. When they are both on they both see the same voltage.

Having said that, not all the emitters have the same hi. The big difference is the aspheric, it's single die can take way more current/voltage than the other two emitter's dies.

So in your scenario above if the reflector is on high, the aspheric will be on medium high. I say this because the reflector will be limited to 1000mA but the aspheric will be limited to around 1500-2000mA.

If the flood is on medium that is 4 die each at 200mA or a total of 800mA. If the reflector is on at the same time, it too will be on medium at about 200 mA. The total power consumed will be 1000mA and you will have medium flood and medium reflector throw.

Is this clear as mud? I bet . . . :nana:

 

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. . .
Question is: will I like it better than my 007 which is just about perfect in its simplicity and versatility?

The Tri-V concept is as simple to use as any SPY. Turn the knob, get light. 😉 Like Coke Classic, I would not change that formula. :candle:

 

[brighterisbetter]

I don't care what this costs, I want one 😱

 

[Data]

Here is a pic of the CAD model of the MC-E bezel. This first pic is actual size depending on your monitor resolution. As you can see the bezel is tiny so I added a few magnified views below.

This bezel is modeled after a camera lens sun shade. This will work good even if you are one who holds the light upside down in use. You know who you are, KARL, but I am not going to mention any names. 😗

Cheers
Dave

 

[Rudi]

Clear as mud indeed, Dave. If the combination beams are, as you explain, fixed in the ratio of each component, then it all depends on how the combination beam looks to the user under his/her conditions of use.

Your explanation does sugest a method though. I plan to program mine just like my 007, very low to high, but compressing the six levels into four, reserving one for pure flood and one (number 6) for the aspheric. Then, one by one, I would add the flood to the four reflector levels to determine whether I prefer the combined beam at that particular level or not. And finally, I'd play with the intensity of the flood level to determine where it best suits my needs, and where to place it in the sequence.

It's very exciting to look forward to this project.

 

[Data]

Clear as mud indeed, Dave. If the combination beams are, as you explain, fixed in the ratio of each component, then it all depends on how the combination beam looks to the user under his/her conditions of use.

Your explanation does sugest a method though. I plan to program mine just like my 007, very low to high, but compressing the six levels into four, reserving one for pure flood and one (number 6) for the aspheric. Then, one by one, I would add the flood to the four reflector levels to determine whether I prefer the combined beam at that particular level or not. And finally, I'd play with the intensity of the flood level to determine where it best suits my needs, and where to place it in the sequence.

It's very exciting to look forward to this project.

Wow, you have been thinking about this! I agree with your configuration ideas completely. If the light starts out acting like a normal SPY, it may be easy to adjust to.

 

[Rudi]

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[chipwillis]

That looks sweet.

 

[UnderTheWeepingMoon]

It's good to see you have left a trit slot in your renderings, Dave. I think that trit is essential in a bedside light and found that tritium vials in my 005 made it perfect for that purpose.

The MC-E bezel looks great and, as long as it offers sufficient protection from frontal impacts, I'm all for it.

 

[London Lad]

I love the bezel....

 

[tebore]

I don't know if this has been asked but how's the Tri-V on water proofness/resistance?

 

[Data]

I don't know if this has been asked but how's the Tri-V on water proofness/resistance?

It would be the same as all the SPY's, water resistant so you can use it in the rain but it is not a dive light.