*Is the night buster 8x the brightest led flashlight?
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Brock
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Of all the light I have it is the brightest. I am waiting on the Trek 14 and Trek 19 LED models. Those might beat it. But even if they do for size the 8X will win. Actually the Ledda is even smaller and as bright as the current Trek 7 LED. You can use lithium AA's in the Ledda and 8X. They are both cheaper then the Trek line. The 8X doesn't seem to hold Duracell batteries with the tester on the side. The 8X's barrel is just big enough for regular batteries. The Ledda looks like a long 2 AA Mag. The Ledda should be released soon, and Glowbug will also carry it, both are made by Night Buster.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nonbox:
Is the night buster 8x the brightest led flashlight on the market? Is there anything brighter that is the same size as this flashlight (or smaller size)?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've gotten wind of an upcoming LED flashlight that has the potential to make everything else look like a defective birthday candle.
Unfortunately, I can't spill the beans just yet, or even say who is going to make it.
I should have more info inside the next couple of months. The anticipation will be worse than waiting for the Heinz ketchup to come out of the bottle.
For now though, for current production model flashlights (not homebrews), the Trek 1900 is the reigning champ for sheer intensity.
Is the night buster 8x the brightest led flashlight on the market? Is there anything brighter that is the same size as this flashlight (or smaller size)?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've gotten wind of an upcoming LED flashlight that has the potential to make everything else look like a defective birthday candle.
Unfortunately, I can't spill the beans just yet, or even say who is going to make it.
I should have more info inside the next couple of months. The anticipation will be worse than waiting for the Heinz ketchup to come out of the bottle.
For now though, for current production model flashlights (not homebrews), the Trek 1900 is the reigning champ for sheer intensity.
D
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Got my Nightbuster 8x an hour ago on Brock'ters orders. This sturdy led-lined nightstick handles like a nice old fashioned sturdy 3c flashlight thingy. It can replace the 2-D Ray-O-Vac for household lighting duties only it's not as cheap.
It's not a ShureShot/Fire device. No-no-no. It's not beautiful but it's at least half way attractive. It comes WITH paint and all. It even has a lanyard, for your wrist, not your neck. I can't find any "made in china" markings on the body, the endcap, the head or the instruction manual so, unless they were painted over, I guess it's good old USA made, hopefully in St. Louis Mo. where the designer/company lives.
I quickly popped in three charged Ni-cads, turned it on and looked down the barrel of the gun. Kind of blinding down there but not quite. I took my eyes away right quickly, But I could actually see the individual LED's without much pain at all.
It's daytime right now so I did the closet trick with an eternalight for comparison. Hey, I'm still in the closet but the door's open.
The spot on back of the closet, with the door open but the curtains down, made by the Nightbuster seemed about 2-3 times bigger and almost as diffuse as the one made by the eternalight. Both Ledlights, one on charged nicads and the other on pretty fresh eveready E-91 alkaline AA;s seemed to have about the same blinding effect. You could actually look at them for a second.
I replaced the nicads in the Nightbuster with regular fresh but not new E-91 regular formula Eveready Alkalines the light was pretty blinding but it wouldn't leave a spot on the back of my brain or on the floor of a non-sunlit room (am I sounding like Craig...?) It definitely outlit the eternalight, as it should given the relative amperages consumed per each LED, (Per Brock)
So I stuck in three not-so-new but plenty good, tested, e2 L-91 lithium batteries and stuck the light in my eye. Wow. I saw spots for about 15 seconds. It's a rush. Good and plenty. That's my equivalent of rolling a motorized wheelchair over the light body.
Craig and I will have to build a chart of relative destruction lest we perpetuate mind/body dualism.
Caution, this was done by an expert who have done this before, who has day-accustomed eyes who is not depressed with light-sensitive eyes and I know what I are doing.
No more than a peepsight, you hear, just a second or so...or you will get brain damage too. I have seen 360 lumens and lived.
This Nightbuster 8x is pretty strong but it may not as useful-for-biking throw-your- weight-around strong as your basic high lumen halogen light, much less your basic cheapo yellowy PR 113, 700ma Krypton bulb with four L-91 lithiums in a plastic body.
The Specialized Pre-view Krypton light I use for backup with L-91's easily wiped out the 8-LED array on L-91's. No change when I switched the bike light to a (chinese) Halogen bulb at 500ma I wiped out the Nightbuster beam at 10 feet. I could probably have stepped the bike light back down to Nicad's on the Pre-View light and outspotted the Nightbuster. The Buster is just not a spotlight.
It does not even have a reflector...just 8 LEDs peering out of a deeply sunken aluminum cylinder with a clear plastic cap.
I want a reliable bikeuplight for my back.
I ride bikes, commuting, every day. Even when it is very very cool out. I even do trail riding, in Chicago no less where backups are critical lest one bite the dust.
My 360 lumen Light & Motion Apex-Cabeza headlight with the 20 hour softstart light and the NIMH batteries sometimes stops. Mostly because it is real new and does not take a full charge but sometimes because I drained it. When I ride more than an hour...its surefire flameout for me too, just like when a M-6 does a 500 lumen flameout while you cut grass with it.
So now I'm into backups. I thought the E-1 would make a perfect backup with a bike bar block. No bounce at all. But my commuting run times can be relatively long 5-10 minutes easily and in the cold I wanted something that was more than a SureFire bet, I guess.
I did not consider tempermental high performance glass bulbs with 4-5 hour life times to be reliable or even very useful given the short run time and tight light focus. Hence the Nightbuster 8x.
Unfortunately I think the Nightbuster 8x will be too long and too heavy for a little rubber light block for my handlebars. I think it will bounce, nod and shake over the littlest bumps producing a strobe-effect, or maybe not...we'll see tonight.
Besides the twist-on switch is definitely a problem, the rubber seals on the back endcap are so tight the whole body would probably rotate in its rubber bar block. I would have to nail its feet to the handlebar so I could turn the switch on one-handed, after a main engine flameout.
Maybe I should glue the Buster it to the light block, switch it on all the time and await the day I can do a real life comparisons with E-2's and E-1's, and WLS-2000's against my fresnelitic, lithium-filled, halogenated Specialized Preview that is light (as in gravitationally), flat, not so cool, quickoff (so I can beat the stealers with it).
And and and it fits into my briefcase/backback pretty nicely (except when the easy-on switch goes on in my bag so the backup needs to be backed up too).
Oh, I just realized, I am now in the market for backups to my backup two.
I think I will tape an Arc-light/white whatever into a bullet hole carefully shot into my private Brain Repair Manual.
Oh, with the Nightbuster8x you can beat the stealers much quicker, if you really want to.
It is such a more useful light than the not so beautiful or so heavy CCTrek.
E-2;E-2 OH? And a light-diffuser to go. With no fresnel here may the bright spot go, and we all fall down.
StJoe
It's not a ShureShot/Fire device. No-no-no. It's not beautiful but it's at least half way attractive. It comes WITH paint and all. It even has a lanyard, for your wrist, not your neck. I can't find any "made in china" markings on the body, the endcap, the head or the instruction manual so, unless they were painted over, I guess it's good old USA made, hopefully in St. Louis Mo. where the designer/company lives.
I quickly popped in three charged Ni-cads, turned it on and looked down the barrel of the gun. Kind of blinding down there but not quite. I took my eyes away right quickly, But I could actually see the individual LED's without much pain at all.
It's daytime right now so I did the closet trick with an eternalight for comparison. Hey, I'm still in the closet but the door's open.
The spot on back of the closet, with the door open but the curtains down, made by the Nightbuster seemed about 2-3 times bigger and almost as diffuse as the one made by the eternalight. Both Ledlights, one on charged nicads and the other on pretty fresh eveready E-91 alkaline AA;s seemed to have about the same blinding effect. You could actually look at them for a second.
I replaced the nicads in the Nightbuster with regular fresh but not new E-91 regular formula Eveready Alkalines the light was pretty blinding but it wouldn't leave a spot on the back of my brain or on the floor of a non-sunlit room (am I sounding like Craig...?) It definitely outlit the eternalight, as it should given the relative amperages consumed per each LED, (Per Brock)
So I stuck in three not-so-new but plenty good, tested, e2 L-91 lithium batteries and stuck the light in my eye. Wow. I saw spots for about 15 seconds. It's a rush. Good and plenty. That's my equivalent of rolling a motorized wheelchair over the light body.
Craig and I will have to build a chart of relative destruction lest we perpetuate mind/body dualism.
Caution, this was done by an expert who have done this before, who has day-accustomed eyes who is not depressed with light-sensitive eyes and I know what I are doing.
No more than a peepsight, you hear, just a second or so...or you will get brain damage too. I have seen 360 lumens and lived.
This Nightbuster 8x is pretty strong but it may not as useful-for-biking throw-your- weight-around strong as your basic high lumen halogen light, much less your basic cheapo yellowy PR 113, 700ma Krypton bulb with four L-91 lithiums in a plastic body.
The Specialized Pre-view Krypton light I use for backup with L-91's easily wiped out the 8-LED array on L-91's. No change when I switched the bike light to a (chinese) Halogen bulb at 500ma I wiped out the Nightbuster beam at 10 feet. I could probably have stepped the bike light back down to Nicad's on the Pre-View light and outspotted the Nightbuster. The Buster is just not a spotlight.
It does not even have a reflector...just 8 LEDs peering out of a deeply sunken aluminum cylinder with a clear plastic cap.
I want a reliable bikeuplight for my back.
I ride bikes, commuting, every day. Even when it is very very cool out. I even do trail riding, in Chicago no less where backups are critical lest one bite the dust.
My 360 lumen Light & Motion Apex-Cabeza headlight with the 20 hour softstart light and the NIMH batteries sometimes stops. Mostly because it is real new and does not take a full charge but sometimes because I drained it. When I ride more than an hour...its surefire flameout for me too, just like when a M-6 does a 500 lumen flameout while you cut grass with it.
So now I'm into backups. I thought the E-1 would make a perfect backup with a bike bar block. No bounce at all. But my commuting run times can be relatively long 5-10 minutes easily and in the cold I wanted something that was more than a SureFire bet, I guess.
I did not consider tempermental high performance glass bulbs with 4-5 hour life times to be reliable or even very useful given the short run time and tight light focus. Hence the Nightbuster 8x.
Unfortunately I think the Nightbuster 8x will be too long and too heavy for a little rubber light block for my handlebars. I think it will bounce, nod and shake over the littlest bumps producing a strobe-effect, or maybe not...we'll see tonight.
Besides the twist-on switch is definitely a problem, the rubber seals on the back endcap are so tight the whole body would probably rotate in its rubber bar block. I would have to nail its feet to the handlebar so I could turn the switch on one-handed, after a main engine flameout.
Maybe I should glue the Buster it to the light block, switch it on all the time and await the day I can do a real life comparisons with E-2's and E-1's, and WLS-2000's against my fresnelitic, lithium-filled, halogenated Specialized Preview that is light (as in gravitationally), flat, not so cool, quickoff (so I can beat the stealers with it).
And and and it fits into my briefcase/backback pretty nicely (except when the easy-on switch goes on in my bag so the backup needs to be backed up too).
Oh, I just realized, I am now in the market for backups to my backup two.
I think I will tape an Arc-light/white whatever into a bullet hole carefully shot into my private Brain Repair Manual.
Oh, with the Nightbuster8x you can beat the stealers much quicker, if you really want to.
It is such a more useful light than the not so beautiful or so heavy CCTrek.
E-2;E-2 OH? And a light-diffuser to go. With no fresnel here may the bright spot go, and we all fall down.
StJoe
Based on the leaflet packed with the 'Buster, it's from Alan Lloyd Designs, and I think he's the kingpin of Glow-Bug. It's a real decent light and for relative quality, size, price(!) and output gives the T-7 a real run for the money. (I wish G-Bug still had $4 shipping though.)
[Sorry about the double posting] Craig, I wonder if this shot has anything to do with the tight-lipped security?
http://www.equipped.org/pp/pic435.htm
http://www.equipped.org/pp/pic435.htm
Chris M.
Flashlight Enthusiast
I saw that pic a while ago- wonder when we`ll see them for real?
When my 9Z shows up I`ll see about making something similar. Kind of like a LED drop in replacement P90, though I`m sure a P60 version isn`t too hard either- they are, after all, the same size and just different voltages, right?
I hope SureFire make their own version though, it`s about time the worlds best flashlights came out with LED bulb replacements to make them, for all intents and purposes, er, how can I put it, um, perfect?
When my 9Z shows up I`ll see about making something similar. Kind of like a LED drop in replacement P90, though I`m sure a P60 version isn`t too hard either- they are, after all, the same size and just different voltages, right?
I hope SureFire make their own version though, it`s about time the worlds best flashlights came out with LED bulb replacements to make them, for all intents and purposes, er, how can I put it, um, perfect?
Chris, my previous post was referring to Busbar and Craig's post.
Sure Fire is still making the best flashlight around but a little slow on LED. I wish that they could make the new Luxeon Star as replacement bulb for P60 that will fit most of their 2 cells light.
Alan Chan
Sure Fire is still making the best flashlight around but a little slow on LED. I wish that they could make the new Luxeon Star as replacement bulb for P60 that will fit most of their 2 cells light.
Alan Chan
At http://www.equipped.org/shot_show_2001.htm
Under the heading "Flashlights" *not* "LED Flashlights"--
We were also shown the prototype of a 19 LED head for the smaller Sure-Fire lights, installed on an M3 Millenium body. The 19 white LEDs make for a super close-in and general work light, plenty of even, wide and diffuse light along with longer battery life. LEDs will not likely soon be able to reach out a touch someone like a high powered incandescent, but they are great for more general-purpose use.
Under the heading "Flashlights" *not* "LED Flashlights"--
We were also shown the prototype of a 19 LED head for the smaller Sure-Fire lights, installed on an M3 Millenium body. The 19 white LEDs make for a super close-in and general work light, plenty of even, wide and diffuse light along with longer battery life. LEDs will not likely soon be able to reach out a touch someone like a high powered incandescent, but they are great for more general-purpose use.
A 19 led Surefire will be the king of led lights. Nothing compares to Surefire fit and finish. Their hard anodized finish is the best and no other manufacturer has a finish that can compete against it. When you pick up a Surefire you know it is quality. Most flashlights from other manufacturers feel and look cheap.
The_LED_Museum
*Retired*
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by busbar:
[Sorry about the double posting] Craig, I wonder if this shot has anything to do with the tight-lipped security?
http://www.equipped.org/pp/pic435.htm<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nope... that's not it...
Nice looking light though. They should silverize the receptacle the LEDs are mounted in. Might not improve it much, but I'll take the 1% or so.
[Sorry about the double posting] Craig, I wonder if this shot has anything to do with the tight-lipped security?
http://www.equipped.org/pp/pic435.htm<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nope... that's not it...
Nice looking light though. They should silverize the receptacle the LEDs are mounted in. Might not improve it much, but I'll take the 1% or so.
The_LED_Museum
*Retired*
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alan:
I don't think so. I guess Craig was referring to the new Luxeon Star LED on Tektite?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I haven't heard about this one.
So that ain't it either.
I don't think so. I guess Craig was referring to the new Luxeon Star LED on Tektite?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I haven't heard about this one.
So that ain't it either.
D
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telephony, do you expect this light to be affordable?
perhaps in the $50-$75 range?
or cheaper!?!
or is it to early to tell?
perhaps in the $50-$75 range?
or cheaper!?!
or is it to early to tell?
The_LED_Museum
*Retired*
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jeebob:
telephony, do you expect this light to be affordable?
perhaps in the $50-$75 range?
or cheaper!?!
or is it to early to tell?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Still too early to tell. To be honest, I don't have any idea here. I know who's going to make it and a bit about the LED array, but that's about it. And I can't spill the beans just yet.
Besides these two items, all I'm certain of is that it should quite handily blow everything else clean out of the water.
When I'm allowed to tell, you'll read it here first.
telephony, do you expect this light to be affordable?
perhaps in the $50-$75 range?
or cheaper!?!
or is it to early to tell?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Still too early to tell. To be honest, I don't have any idea here. I know who's going to make it and a bit about the LED array, but that's about it. And I can't spill the beans just yet.
Besides these two items, all I'm certain of is that it should quite handily blow everything else clean out of the water.
When I'm allowed to tell, you'll read it here first.
The_LED_Museum
*Retired*
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KenB:
Can you tell us if it uses the Nachia led`s we all know?...Damm guessing game...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I can't tell that yet either. I should know more in a couple of weeks - perhaps enough to get the can opener closer to those worms, maybe even enough to vent the can's contents to atmosphere.
Patience, my dear Flashaholics, patience...
Can you tell us if it uses the Nachia led`s we all know?...Damm guessing game...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I can't tell that yet either. I should know more in a couple of weeks - perhaps enough to get the can opener closer to those worms, maybe even enough to vent the can's contents to atmosphere.
Patience, my dear Flashaholics, patience...
Brock
Flashaholic
I just got the Expedition 14 and 19 LED lights. The 19 is by far the brightest light. Oddly enough both the 14 and 19 ran 500mA and the 19 is brighter. . I would say they are both about twice as bright as the Expedition 7 I have, but I think the one I have is 7 4800 mcd LED's.
So I am about to take shots of my lights again, should I compare them to 1 given light, say the Trek 7, or Photon, or should I just take them individually at the same camera settings?
Brock
So I am about to take shots of my lights again, should I compare them to 1 given light, say the Trek 7, or Photon, or should I just take them individually at the same camera settings?
Brock
MY
Enlightened
Compare them to the Photon. I think that the Photon is a defacto standard when it comes to output since everyone knows its light characteristics.
