:shakehead Why do people make such statements as this? Rather narrow minded if you ask me.
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:shakehead Why do people make such statements as this? Rather narrow minded if you ask me.
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the same people who make statements like this:
or narrow viewpoints such as this:
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/229266
oh, wait, nvm
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alfreddajero
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I like it.......im not a camper and i have other lights as well to play with i just like the form factor of the light since i dont own any single celled AAA lights.
That is just illogical. I have an H50 which is even smaller than the H501. The H50 is a great little light, but I have several AAA lights that are smaller still. And as someone already said, if you carry a spare battery, you have to count that also. Once again, the spare AA is bigger than the spare AAA.
Woods Walker
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Maybe so but thinking smaller than the 2.5 AAAs it would take to = 1 AA. I guess it depends on how someone looks at it.
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As I see it, there are only 3 ways I'm likely to use up an AAA and switch to the spare when outside of the house: 1) the AAA is already mostly used up when I leave the house; 2) I turn on the light and leave it running by accident; or 3) I use the high power mode quite a bit more than I really have to. All of these happen from time to time.
For 1 and 2, it doesn't matter whether I use an AA or AAA since it works out the same way for both. For 3, when running on the spare I'll tend to use low mode more either way. I might be less careful about that with an AA but it won't make that much difference. The lights I carry will run for 6-7 hours on low using a spare AAA which is plenty for most any foreseeable situation. Having 2.5x the capacity won't really help. "Low" on these lights is still 10+ lumens which is 2x a stock Minimag, so it's again plenty for most short and medium distance purposes.
I actually carry a whole spare light (Arc AAA) in my backpack rather than just a spare cell, so that's even more weight savings compared with an AA light.
I agree with the idea of a Zebralight-format AAA light instead of the ITP T shape. Maybe the T shape helps reduce glare by getting the light further out in front of your face though, hmm. With my H50 I use the rubber shield to help with this problem but maybe the T shape is another way to solve it without the extra rubber thingy.
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If efficiency isn't important I guess we can all go back to the dreaded incandescent lights of the 70s. Yeah!!!!!
in a pwm based light (such as this) running lower is NOT more efficient. it is the same efficacy as running on high.
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the same people who make statements like this:
or narrow viewpoints such as this:
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/229266
oh, wait, nvm
Thanks Ragista, seems like you're my #1 fan. You might want to update the posts of mine you quote from as now I use my Novatacs all 5 set up pretty much at .08 lumen / .33 lumen / .94 lumen / 2.7 lumen. Let me guess I'm narrow minded because this is how I would set up all my lights if I had the opportunity. 120 lumens? Not in my lifetime. I am one where 640k is all I will ever need. 2 lumens is as bright as I will ever need. Period.
no, you are narrow minded because you think 2 lumens is the most ANYONE ELSE will ever need. what you want is one thing, but numerous times now (see above) you find it impossible to accept that the needs/wants of others could possibly be anything other than the same as yours.
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Woods Walker
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Sounds good to me as I never debate personal preference based on individual needs. I have 1XAAA flashlights that are used with a Jakstrap when backing up my 3xAAA headlamp. Glare is always a problem with setups like that and this would be my primary consideration for looking at the H01. I prefer 1x AAA/CR123 within the EDC format and AA for trail/camp use though will still take AAA at times.
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I don't find it impossible to accept the needs or wants of other people, I just think people inevitably fall into the bigger is better, brighter is better trap and they follow along like sheep to the slaughter. More often than not, this is true.
another way of saying you don't see their choice/needs of more light as rational, which is exactly what you already said. again, this is PURELY your OPINION.
everyone is clearly wrong, you are clearly right.
Follow along like sheep to the slaughter? Go back to the incans of the seventies? Aren't you going just a tad bit overboard? And where the heck did I say efficiency isn't important? You also seem to fail to realize that moon modes are NOT that efficient anyway due to the nature of LED's at low drive levels.
I have zero problems with how you program and use your lights, but saying that driving LED's at a low level to maximize efficiency should be the end all be all of everything period is why I said your statement was narrow minded.
Back to the whole "bigger/better sheep slaughterfest" long runtime could also fall into the same category. Wait it does, especially when manufacturors bait the sheep with big continuous runtime numbers that fall short in real world runtime. I'm reffering to the iTP EOS's low runtime BTW.
I have zero problems with how you program and use your lights, but saying that driving LED's at a low level to maximize efficiency should be the end all be all of everything period is why I said your statement was narrow minded.
Back to the whole "bigger/better sheep slaughterfest" long runtime could also fall into the same category. Wait it does, especially when manufacturors bait the sheep with big continuous runtime numbers that fall short in real world runtime. I'm reffering to the iTP EOS's low runtime BTW.
It's the other way, LED's are MORE efficient at low drive levels than at high ones, as long as you're not talking about nearly-extinguished levels. In fact PWM is less efficient than driving the led at low current, because of this. This is one area where LED's have total advantage over incan.
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Except that's not quite how Paul put it. The be all end all should be that everyone can choose for themselves what they want without having to run the gauntlet of posts telling them their choices are wrong.
If that's where you want to go, then go, but there are many other options that you may want to read up on.
No. You're narrow minded because you consistently make posts suggesting that the rest of us should follow your preferences.
The truth is that I'm very much like you in preferring lower modes, but it's not for you or I to deride others for not choosing a light the same way we do.
Good post. I think he means well but just has trouble stating in in a live-and-let-live manner.
below 10-20 lumens (depending on the led) efficacy of LEDs being driven by constant current take a nose dive. using PWM, the efficacy is identical to the highest mode available on the light.
I've been trying to standardize my battery-powered gear on a single battery size, and finally settled on AA:
1. Better selection of lights (for example, Zebralight headlights)
2. AA carries the right amount of charge for the way I like to use lights (for example, an AA will last through a ninety minute trail run, I'd likely have to change an AAA)
3. If I take an AAA device on a trip (for example, Garmin Geko GPS) and only want to take one battery type, I can always use an adapter to put an AAA cell in a AA light. Fitting an AA battery into a AAA slot, that's something I haven't mastered yet!
4. AA is more universal than other options (like 123), easier to find at a good price just about everywhere.
Going back to Zebralight's post, I think they have a point about the negligible weight savings. the ITP H01 is 22.8 g, the ZL H501 is 21 g, and if the H51 weighs the same as the SC50 without the clip, it should be around 33 g. That 10 g penalty is worth it for me.
The time when I can see the utility of an AAA light is when volume matters, like for a pocket carry light. Otherwise, the slightly higher weight of an AA light is more than offset by the advantages, IMHO.
Ted
1. Better selection of lights (for example, Zebralight headlights)
2. AA carries the right amount of charge for the way I like to use lights (for example, an AA will last through a ninety minute trail run, I'd likely have to change an AAA)
3. If I take an AAA device on a trip (for example, Garmin Geko GPS) and only want to take one battery type, I can always use an adapter to put an AAA cell in a AA light. Fitting an AA battery into a AAA slot, that's something I haven't mastered yet!
4. AA is more universal than other options (like 123), easier to find at a good price just about everywhere.
Going back to Zebralight's post, I think they have a point about the negligible weight savings. the ITP H01 is 22.8 g, the ZL H501 is 21 g, and if the H51 weighs the same as the SC50 without the clip, it should be around 33 g. That 10 g penalty is worth it for me.
The time when I can see the utility of an AAA light is when volume matters, like for a pocket carry light. Otherwise, the slightly higher weight of an AA light is more than offset by the advantages, IMHO.
Ted
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