Jetbeam C-LE flickering/mode skip EASY FIX!!!

zeeexsixare

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I got my C-LE today and was very impressed by the size, tint, and smooth (when lubed) threads, but noticed that there was lots of talk of peoples' Jetbeam C-LEs flickering and skipping modes. I figured out the problem. The problem is that little pointy bit at the bottom of the battery compartment.

There's actually two pointy bits. One is about 1mm in diameter smack dab in the center. The other is about 3-4mm in diameter around and below the smaller one. At first glance the small one looks like it's to allow positive contact, but it's actually a manufacturing defect. The tiny nub is the point where the cutting tool doesn't actually cut the metal.

As a result, these nubs dig into the negative terminals of our batteries and punch little divots into the bottoms. These divots become formed as we tighten down the head, and once they're formed, the head and battery make a form-fitting image of each other. When you tighten down the head, the nub makes initial contact with the battery, so it flickers on a bit. But then as you rotate the head, the unit flickers across several modes as the contact comes in and out. Why does it come in and out? It's because the battery and the battery compartment are not concentric with each other. This is exacerbated by the fact that the battery compartment is slightly too big.

So as you tighten it down, the out-of-roundness of the battery and nub are making contact, then losing it, then making it again, causing the circuitry to skip across modes. Once you have it tightened down all the way, it behaves properly. But once you try to change modes, the nub causes problems because it makes intermittent contact as usual.

What's the solution? Well, the solution is quite simple. Grind off that 1mm bit of nub at the bottom of the battery compartment. This gives you the full 3-4mm surface area of the larger nub to make good contact. This makes sure that you don't start divoting all your batteries and also gives less resistance for the electrons to flow.

How do you grind it off? I did it with a router and a rotary grinding stone that happened to be exactly 14.4mm. Be careful as you do it, because the battery compartment will tend to precess around the tool and make a horrible noise and spin out of control. You will want to apply pressure at the very bottom only so as to allow the top part of the battery compartment slide across the grinding stone as much as possible while grinding the nub at the bottom down as much as possible.

Make a fat washer with lots of space for the now-big center nub, and you will notice that it switches modes with only a 1/16th of a turn, and there's a more positive "stop" as you tighten it down. I used Duracell 2650's and the length is perfect with no solder blobs needed. This is what the manufacturer wanted in the first place but shouldn't have let these battery compartments ship.

I can take pics tomorrow.

By the way, all of you illiterate people need to stop saying "definately" because it makes you look like you're in grade school. Some of you actually are in grade school so maybe that's okay...
 
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Thats definately an easy fix! I just happen to have a router and 14.4mm stone sitting here on the desk next to me, definately.
 
I sanded mine down with sandpaper, a rubber band, and a chopstick. I was getting annoyed with the divots on my new eneloops. I ended up putting a solder blob on the head because it became too short for Ray-o-vac alkalines...

Never considered that it would cause switching problems. Good catch!
 
Interesting fix. My C-LE (group buy) doesn't have this problem, fortunately, but I agree it needs to be fixed when present. I've had to adjust a number of sharp, pointy springs in tailcaps over the years that were gouging batteries in exactly the same way.

Good catch!
 
I wouldn't describe the problem as gouging, which implies scratches or removal of material. What is happening with the C-LE is more like denting/imprinting. See pic here:

 
I think I'm going to put a solder blob on mine too because I'm worried about the twisty action eating through the PCB leads... they're microns thick. Man I really like this light, even though it takes a bit to make it fully refined. My L2D seems like a brick compared to this, and with comparable output on the regular modes at 1/2 the price, it's amazing. Too bad we won't see it again cheap again.
 
Mine seems to have a hole in the middle of that nub rather than a pointy bit sticking up. QC in machining is not one of Jetbeams better points.
 
Definately thanks for the tip zeeexsixare (no pun intended). ; )

I noticed the tiny in mine too and was going to find a way to file it off. My + contact already had a blob of solder though...wonder if it's a refurb.
 
Luckily mine has a smooth - contact and a solder blob at the other end. The best thing I've done to improve operation is clean the threads with a wire brush. Still wondering if conductive grease or even dielectric grease would make it even better. Haven't found any of the greases at a reasonable enough cost yet.

Geoff
 
I just sanded down my nub and your right.Mine was eratic because I don't use the (corn pad) foam but now it's perfect.I wish I bought more CLE's but I do have 3 rexlights coming!!THANKS FOR THE TIP.

DON
 
Not using the foam will also tend to make it erratic. The foam helps to break the circuit when you want it disconnected. But if it works for you your way, that's good too.
 
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