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SilverFox

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In other words - WOW!!! This is one bright light.

I wanted to get a McCulloch X990, but was informed by proxenon.com that McCulloch was no longer making these lights. They have a Bohemen BF-990. It is an improved version of the X990. Sounded like the same light to me, so I ordered one.

While I am waiting for the light, KartRacer31 posts problems he is having with the same light. Bernhard also has posted some interesting characteristics of the HID beam in his dive light.

My light arrived and just like KartRacer31 the battery packs are stamped McCulloch HID. The model number is different, JF-990S, but it looks just like the X990. I believe KartRacer31 mentioned the features, but let me recap:

0-90 degree adjustable head position with 5 click stops in between
Dust and Waterproof (but not submersible)
70 minute run time on NiMH battery (two batteries included)
4 hour recharge time charger
An upgraded ballast that is quieter and allows full brightness in 4 seconds
A higher temperature bulb (5500K instead of 4500K) with a life of 3000 hours
Some warning as the battery dies
and Proxenon is extending the manufacturers warranty from 1 year to 5 years.

I could not wait to charge the batteries up and just jumped right in and turned it on...

Wow, is that thing bright. I must admit that my TigerLight is brighter than the spill light, but the 990S just devours the TigerLight in the hot spot. I have seen several "X million candlepower" spot lights, but this thing is brighter by far. They advertise 1 lux at 500+ meters in spot mode and 1 lux at 331 meters in flood mode. That is a lot of light.

Here is the catch. Just like KartRacer31, my beam is yellow. In spot mode, the whole bottom half of the beam is yellow, like a fog light. It is really bright, but yellow. Similar to Bernhard's observations, the yellow follows gravity. If you shine it up at the ceiling, almost the whole beam is yellow.

Bummer...

I called Proxenon asking for a replacement bulb. I also did some research on HID bulbs.

Here is what I found out.

HID bulbs use metal halide salts (the yellow stuff) to maintain the arc after first strike. This allows the light to run at reduced current for better efficiency. These halide salts are used up over time with the result of the light getting dimmer (and the color getting whiter) as it ages. At the very end of its life, it will flash, then dim down to nearly nothing then flash again. You have all seen street lights suffering from that problem.

The original McCulloch X990 was manufactured with "seasoned" bulbs.

The Bohmen BF-990 (McCulloch JF-990S) uses a brand new "raw" bulb.

The HID bulbs used in automobiles have been seasoned by running them for 50-200 hours. During this time, the color of the bulb changes from a slightly yellow color to a whiter color. The greatest change is noticed during the first few hours of run time.

Well, there you have it. It seems we have a fine bottle of wine that needs some ageing.

I decided to run the light a while to see if there was any change.

I charged up the batteries and took the light out at night to see what it would do. Did I mention that it is really bright? In pouring down rain it made it look a little like it was snowing. The light reflecting off of the rain drops did limit the throw a bit, but I could still light up the docks across the lake over a half mile away. If I looked carefully, I could see a hint of yellow, but in normal use it was not glaringly noticeable. This light is really bright!

I started with the beam half yellow while in spot mode and mostly yellow while in flood mode. 8 hours later I have no yellow in spot mode while pointing at the wall, and yellow extending from 5:00 to 8:00 (clock reference) in full flood mode. The beam is worse when I point it at the ceiling, but I am encouraged by the improvement in the short time I have had it.

As far as the low battery warning goes, it is basically non existent on my light. I have two battery packs. One of them blinks 3 times then goes out, and the other one just goes out. The safe bet is just to charge up the batteries before going out to use the light. I am getting around 65 minutes of run time with the batteries. I will do a formal check after I cycle them a few more times.

I will continue to use this light and am greatly encouraged to see the improvement in a few hours of use. There was some mention in the Sylvania web site on automobile HID bulbs that they were designed to be used in a horizontal mode (the bulbs in the 990 are made by Phillips). This is not mentioned anywhere else, but I went from pointing my light at the ceiling to pointing it at the wall. It seems there was better progress using it in that configuration. Please note that the head is heavy and if you jiggle the table it will fall face down. It does not seem to be very stable in that position. I have a modification in mind to help with that and will report on it later.

This light is for people that can take the time to age the bulb. If you want to just pull it out of the carrying case and expect a perfect beam color, you will be disappointed. The extended 5 year warranty makes me think that Proxenon (and Phillips) have a lot of faith in these bulbs and this will give me a chance to use the light and see if the beam cleans up.

This light will not fit in your back pocket, but it is well balanced and comfortable to carry. It also has a carrying strap so you can throw it over your shoulder. I really like my TigerLight, but this light just blows it away.

Did I mention that it is really bright?

Tom
 
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SilverFox said:... They advertise 1 lux at 500+ meters in spot mode and 1 lux at 331 meters in flood mode. That is a lot of light ...
Tom

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I recently bought a X990 from BrightGuys, it is branded ACRO. It seems to have all the features that you described.

I did my own Lux measurement and got 350,000 lux with tight beam ... your statement confirms my reading was at least in the right ballpark.

Great Info ... Thanks for all the great research!

Edit: Added link to ACRO.
 
thanx for the research and explanation Tom! Seems we know the truth now! and hey, mine has some red in it that yours don't have !! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
bernhard
 
Well I'm really glad to hear that I'm no the only one with the yellow. I was a bit concerned at first when Zeppert said he had no yellow at all. I guess some bulbs are made with more salt than others. Tom, you mentioned you contacted Proxenon about a replacement bulb, I did the same, and they told me to run it for 30 hours and the yellow would go away. Is this what they told you? Were they willing to send you a replacement bulb? Also you mentioned that overtime the salts get used up, giving the bulb less yellow/more white, but at the cost of being dimmer. Do you have a time frame on this. Do the salts run out at the 3000 hour mark? Thanks for all your research. Oh one more thing. I notice on the BrightGuy website the Acro light mentions that its charge time is 1 hour,is that a typo?
 
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KartRacer31 said:Oh one more thing. I notice on the BrightGuy website the Acro light mentions that its charge time is 1 hour,is that a typo?

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I think it is a typo, if you go to the ACRO site it says 4.5 Hours.
 
Hello KartRacer31,

I am not getting a replacement bulb. It seems that new "raw" bulbs all have a little extra salt in them. Joe at Proxenon told me that a new bulb would be the same as what I started out with.

Joe mentioned 30-50 hours of break in, then proceeded to tell me of how BMW specifies 250 hour break in (from Philips) before binning the bulbs for their cars. Philips and Sylvania both list HID bulbs as a lifetime light in automobile use. It is interesting to note that HID headlights are covered in the 100000 mile extended warranty on some of these cars.

I am not quite sure of the chemical reaction in these bulbs. It would appear that they are close to mercury vapor lights, but the halide salt mixture is a little different. The salt mixture is used to sustain the arc after first strike. Near the end of the bulb life, it will be harder to sustain the arc and I would venture to guess that the ballast will be required to put out more power to keep things going. The ballast simply shuts off. It sounds like it takes a few hours to get the mixture mixed up after manufacturing, then things stabilize until the mixture becomes too lean to sustain the arc.

When you first start the light, you notice a blue beam that is dimmer gradually going to bright. I believe as the bulb reaches the end of its life you will see that in reverse. The beam will get real blue in color and dimmer, then start flashing and die. Mind you that this is an educated guess. I have no documentation on this.

I rounded the life number. The actual range is 2700 hours to 3400 hours and this range depends on where you look.

Tom
 
Great info, it pretty much mirrors what I've heard. So I guess I have good things to look forward to. The light should be whiter and brighter as I use it more. Quite frankly I can't really imagine that I'll ever put 2700 hours on this light. So I guess it's really a lifetime of light for me. I'm thinking about letting it run thru a few more packs just to age the bulb a little more. I have 5 packs thru it now. I think another 5 or 10 should help.
 
Update:

After a few cycles on the batteries, I have one that is running 72 minutes (constant on) and the other is at 71 minutes.

Also, I noticed that the light is a little top heavy and when you put it down on a table with the head pointed toward the wall, it is easy to have it fall over. I put a big drop of hot melt glue on the forward edge of the batteries and it seems to be more stable now. I put the hot melt glue on the battery pack then set it down on waxed paper to keep it from attaching to the counter.

Tom
 
Really great info, SilverFox. Some day I would like to own one of these, and the more information I can find about them, the more confident I am about the viability and longevity of the light. A five year warranty is a huge confidence booster. That tells me that the manufacturer is confident the light will withstand the test of time. Spending $500 on a light that is very delicate is a scary proposition to me, but the info you posted here helps temper those feelings greatly!

Thanks!
- Brian
 
Observation:

Zeppert mentioned in the battery run time thread that his X990 was getting around 50 minutes of run time. I was wondering about this.

I checked out Kenshiro's site and noticed that the X990 came with a 3.5 amp hour battery. The BF-990 comes with a 4.5 amp hour battery. Perhaps this is accounts for the difference in run time.

Tom
 
Don told me once that NiMh batteries need a "warm-up" time of a few cycles to reach max. capacity.
bernhard
 
An interesting thing happened this evening. My wife and I attended a charity event where they auctioned decorated Christmas trees. She put together the decorations for a Looney Tune theme and was sad to see the ornaments going out of her collection. It was for a good local charity, so she was not too sad, but she really enjoys collecting ornaments and the Looney Tunes were some of her favorites.

The lady that bought the tree had planned to donate it to the pediatric wing in the hospital, but upon further inquiry found out that they only accept artificial trees. She knew how dear the ornaments on the tree were to my wife and took me aside to ask if she could donate the tree back to my wife. I told her that my wife would be totally surprised.

The trees are bagged up and delivered to the buyers by our Boy Scout Troop. The trees have all the lights and ornaments on them and it is a bit of a challenge delivering a totally decorated tree to someone's house. Some of these trees are wider than the door ways and although we try to be careful, some of the ornaments always seem to fall off.

My wife commented that she was having a hard time finding the hangers that use to have ornaments on them on the tree. Also the tops of the ornaments had pulled out of the glass balls and were left hanging on the tree.

Out comes the 990. My wife and I were able to find all but one of the hangers and bulb tops. My wife commented that the 990 is really bright and the gold and silver hangers really stood out in the intense light.

I must admit that the 990 is a little heavy to be pokeing around a Christmas tree, but when you need a lot of light, its the right tool for the job.

Tom
 
Thanks for the story. We have a very similar charity thing here and my wife is very involved in it. I'll have to share your story with her and ask her if I can get a BF-990. I think that's very reasonable given her commitment to the charity. Similarly, I would like to help her out in any way possible. So, the light would not be for me, it would be for us. On the other hand, last time I whipped out the 3 million vector she said I looked like an a$$hole.

eh, what to do?
 
Update:

I have 20 hours on the bulb and there is no yellow while in spot mode. A nice white color with a small blue tinge at the edge.

When I open it up to flood, I still have some yellow at the bottom of the beam, but it is a lot lighter than it was. The beam is a bit multi-colored. I have a white center. The top of the beam is white with a little red in it (like Bernhard's beam). The bottom of the beam is white, yellow, and has a little green tint in it.

When I turn the light upside down, there is a wash of yellow, then it appears that the beam changes a little. The center hot spot seems to move a little and become a little less intense. Does anyone else notice a difference in beam patterns as the light is rotated?

I use this light in spot mode and it is really bright. I have been using flood mode to watch the changing beam color, but most of the time I am in spot mode. I can not say I notice the subtle color changes while I am using the light. It is interesting to see how far the light penetrates the woods. In areas with little underbrush, you can see a long way. People walking the trails with their little 2 AA lights are completely blown away.

By the way, I think my focus cam is a little strange. I can go to flood mode, then there is a little resistance. When I go beyond the little resistance I get a dark hole in the beam. Then I come up against the focus stop.

Has anyone taken these lights apart? I would like to check out the bulb centering and focus cam.

The most dramatic difference in beam color was observed during the first few hours of operation. I can notice changes after 20 hours, but they are occurring slowly. Spot mode is fantastic. Flood mode needs more ageing.

Tom
 
Correction:

I stated in my original post that the beam color temperature was improved from 4500K to 5500K. This is not correct. The original X990's were 5000K and the Boheman SF-990 is 6000K.

Sorry.

Tom
 
Tom - Good update. I have about 6 hours on mine now, and most of the yellow is out of the spot, flood still has a lot of yellow. It's good to know that with a little more time it should get better and better. I get the same color movement as I rotate the light. Apparently its the salts, or yellowish "goop" as I first refered to it in earlier posts, that is moving around.
 
Update:

I was talking with Joe at proxenon.com and he told me that an optional 140 minute NiCd battery pack is in the works for the 990. I don't have any details, but that sounds interesting.

Tom
 
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Update:

I was talking with Joe at proxenon.com and he told me that an optional 140 minute NiCd battery pack is in the works for the 990. I don't have any details, but that sounds interesting.

Tom

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Hi Tom - Sounds like you have some plans up your sleeves? Would that not make for a fun trip is take your 990 w/extended batt pack and go up to Baker Lake? Of course I would not up now but perhaps late spring or sometime this summer. With that Restaruant being closed up there ambient light would be virtually nil, of course go when there is a New Moon... Boy, that would be a blast shinning it across the lake, just watch your back for any possible Grizzlies, I have heard of some being spotted up around Ross Lake via of the Canadian Border!

Dave
 
Update:

When using the light, the battery gets warm. I put a warm battery on the charger and the charge light turned green. I left it on for a couple of hours and it stayed green. I then took the battery and stuck it in the light and turned it on. After 20 minutes I turned it off.

It seems that it was charging even though the green light was indicating that it was on trickle charge.

Of course the best way is to let the battery cool down before putting it on to charge.

Tom
 
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