LED battery tests??

LEDagent

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When i see u guys test battery drain in LED lights during tests, i see that you use the measurement mA or milli-amps. How do you measure amps? or milliamps from a battery? I usually measure battery life by volts - if a battery reaches a certain voltage, then i know when it's about to die.

I have Fluke 77/AN multimeter, can i use that to measure milliamps?
 
it does look confusing doesn't it? iirc the milliamps come from the output of a small photovoltaic cell Stingmon shines the light on...not reproduceable 'at home' unless you have the same equipment, though it's a good objective means for comparison of light output over time, i guess..poisonally, I prefer to look at comparison photos of the beams, side by side when possible, a picture is worth a thousand words, at least.
(edited) I reread your post and maybe you refer to the milliamps being used by the bulb and circuit if any? while the light is on, a break is found, or made, somewhere in the circuit, and the meter probes are inserted, sometimes this is as easy as removing a tail cap and touching the probes to the battery and the body of the flashlight -- Brock has described a 'paddle' - a thin sliver of material with probe wires attached onto foil glued on opposite sides, plus and minus, so that it may be slid in between a couple of batterys for a in series milliamp reading..hope I've been somewhat clear..?
 
LEDagent
Doesn't that Fluke 77 have a d.c. milliamp range shown on it? If so, a method of direct measurement of the current draw of almost any device while operating can be directly read on your meter-without shorting out the batteries. This little trick has been pictured and discussed some 3-4 months ago. It involves just a 3" piece of electrical tape and a coupla strips of alum. foil -try searching past threads for it.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ted the Led:
it does look confusing doesn't it? iirc the milliamps come from the output of a small photovoltaic cell Stingmon shines the light on...not reproduceable 'at home' unless you have the same equipment, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Quite reproducible, if you go to Radio Shack and buy a silicon solar cell. Connect your meter to the cell, set the meter for one of the lower mA ranges, and put it someplace dark with the test flashlight butted up against or even standing up on it.
Take readings once a minute, graph them, and voila you'll have a chart that looks & works just like mine.
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yeah, OK, I didn't know it was a Radio Shack part, but hadn't you better mention the exact part number, so we knows we gots the exact same silicon solar cell?
...and I always thought it was "viola"
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the method I described doesn't involve shorting out anything. maybe vcal is referring to when you touch each end of a battery with the probes to measure the voltage as "shorting" -? ... the 'paddle with foil' thing I mentioned is for amperage measurements...
 
Good point-there is no way that the amps can be measured directly from just a battery by itself (without shorting) which doesn't really prove anything -except that you would have to completely drain the battery to try to guess how much energy it once had.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by vcal:
LEDagent
Doesn't that Fluke 77 have a d.c. milliamp range shown on it? If so, a method of direct measurement of the current draw of almost any device while operating can be directly read on your meter-without shorting out the batteries. This little trick has been pictured and discussed some 3-4 months ago. It involves just a 3" piece of electrical tape and a coupla strips of alum. foil -try searching past threads for it.
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Sounds like some work...(got enoegh work as is
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) I'll try to get around to testing my batteries this way. When you said "shorting out batteries" it brought to mind a question...How DO you short a battery? From all the years handling batteries, i don't i've ever shorted out a battery before. Although there was one time just recently when i was tampering with my new E2. The original batteries in my E2 just quit - was it due to a short or low voltage? I measured their voltage and they both read around 2.5-2.67 volts. Is this the cut off voltage for the E2?
 
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