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I do hope they put the led lenser m3r circuitry into the a2 body and they have
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well, four years on and a message comes to my email that someone has restarted this thread so I thought I'd come on over and see what's what.
Since I commented four years ago some things have changed, some things have stayed the same. I've tried a few different torches in the intervening years, here's a little list of what's happened to them all:
Eagletac P20C2 mkII- nice and bright and easy to use but the beam is not sharp enough to cut through fog or smoke and its contacts in the head require almost constant cleaning. A torch guaranteed to let you down the moment you really need it. You're fired.
Nitecore D10 - for around the house jobs was ok but failed early - You're fired.
Nitecore EA1 - Was very useful for working in the shed on cars etc but always found it turned on in my pocket and does odd things when battery gets a little low - You're fired.
Quark Turbo C2 - Still in my pocket for everyday use but the fact that it's regulated is very frustrating. As with most regulated torches there's very little time to indicate battery is low enough to shut off without warning. Dangerous and drives me mad and if it wasn't for the ease of fitment into my pocket it would be fired just because of that issue.
Led Lenser P4 RFS - sitting on my desk inside for fiddly jobs on electronics etc. Love the instant change to flood. Not very bright though.
Led Lenser P14 - Used three or four times a week. Huge battery life, great spot beam, I've used it to find burglars, shoot foxes, find horses and a bunch of other stuff. Still running on Duracell alkalines but only because I've never come across a good set of D cell rechargeables where I live. Had to cover it in grip tape cos it's a slippery thing without it, especially out in storms when wet.
Led Lenser P7 - I still use it multiple times every night. It has never failed or even flickered, great spot beam, very useful flood, I've stuck grip-tape around it to solve the slipperiness problem. This torch has survived work during floods, fires, car crashes and all sorts of real life dramas and if I know I need something totally reliable it's the one I grab. It gives you a very long time of indication that it's time for a battery change so you are never stuck with it going dark in the middle of its job so it's a very safe torch. I would still prefer a screw head adjustment rather than the push pull but that's about it, no other complaints. If the torch wasn't so fat it would be in my pocket day and night in preference to any other torch. It has now worked perfectly for about five years on nothing other than rechargeable batteries.
My tastes in torches have "matured", I now know that regulated torches are completely wrong for my real world uses. The sudden shut off of light can leave you stuck in the dark in the middle of nowhere and most of the "modes" are pointless gimmickry. On the other hand the supposed gradual reduction in brightness of a non-regulated Led Lenser torch has never presented any problematic issue to me, it's only when they get to near end of battery life that my lensers stop giving more light than I need.
I have come to the conclusion that my old well worn P7 is the most useful, reliable and practical torch I own. The best by a mile.
Thank you for contacting Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. The M7R has in fact been updated, even though it does not have the .2 on the end. It was what we call a running change, meaning we updated it without changing the name or branding of any kind. I am sorry for the confusion! At this time, we do not have an estimated time that the M7R will be available again in the US.
Ive got a rack of Coast and LL lights and there is a lot to be said for the focusing feature. That being said the products offered 2012-current from any of the mainstays like Fenix are just flat out better buys. You want 400 lumens and an excellent beam for near and far pick up a Fenix TK15. The most convincing 400 lumens Ive ever seen lol. The step down levels are solid as well and it is cheaper than LL. Disappointed in LL last couple years they seem to have dropped the ball....
The Led Lenser P 7.2 is a great everyday torch. No shut off as stated, light levels just dropped. Brighter up close than my old P 17 but over distance even the old P 17 outshines it on spot (I'm assuming this is because of the size f the reflector).
Took the P 7.2 an the P 17 hunting. Both were great. Spotted a fox at 150 meters and was able to shoot offhand while holding the torch (no mount as of yet) and dropped it. No complaints about the torch as a every day carry! The holster it comes in is great! Bit fat for a pocket but just loop it on your belt and your good to go! Make sure your t-shirt covers it and you get no questions.
As a throw light I was looking at the p 17.2 but decided on a thrunite catapult v5! No complaints there! Can't really justify to the wife the spending of $600-800.00 on the x-21 series but at $200.00 she's a beauty.
I'm still a led lenser fan! Can't carry the v5 around but the smaller torches I would still say that led lenser have descent options and they are reliable (in my experience, you do hear horror stories everywhere though).
Anyway depending on what you want it for, they are a great option if you just want a run of the mill torch. Yes there are torches out there that are better in certain respects. Total output, throw, focus etc... Over all though led lenser do everything well, nothing spectacular. I hope that makes sense.
P 7.2 is still on my hip.
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My tastes in torches have "matured", I now know that regulated torches are completely wrong for my real world uses. The sudden shut off of light can leave you stuck in the dark in the middle of nowhere and most of the "modes" are pointless gimmickry. On the other hand the supposed gradual reduction in brightness of a non-regulated Led Lenser torch has never presented any problematic issue to me, it's only when they get to near end of battery life that my lensers stop giving more light than I need.
I have come to the conclusion that my old well worn P7 is the most useful, reliable and practical torch I own. The best by a mile.
Have to say I'm starting to agree with this. Quite a few of the regulated lights I have I wouldn't use in some serious situations because of what you describe. Lenser are often criticised for not being regulated by some, but there's a very practical reason why they aren't. Having a light suddenly die on you with no warning can be dangerous.
I don't have a P7, I have an M5 Lenser, which is probably the most practical single AA light I own.
Have a look at the p5r.2 ,its a great light to have around the house with a base charger🙂
Decided to buy a P7.2 to add to my lensers. Like it so far and will use it as main light for a while. Did have a T5 but gave to a relative who was very grateful and loves it.
Where did you buy your 7.2 and did you get a good discount. It is about time Argos started selling decent lights.
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Where did you buy your 7.2 and did you get a good discount. It is about time Argos started selling decent lights.