LED Shootout in the snow

Kiessling

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Hi !

I have done a little shootout in my snowy backyard including 1xCR123 and 2xCR123 lights as well as two oddballs, the Icon Rogue2 and the McGizmo RedEye.

The setting is the following:

00SetupNoZoom.jpg


The lights are mounted on a mic stand exactly in the same position and aimed at the white van in the background. The distance from the light to the van is approximately 8 meters or so. The camera is mounted on another stand roughly 4-5 meters behind the lights and a little to the right. I then zoomed in on the beamshots with the camera.

All exposure settings are fixed, but I can't remember what I did with the white balance. It doesn't matter anyway.

There was some ambient light pollution which is why I reduced the brightness of all pics a tiny little bit to compensate. They are cropped, but otherwise unaltered.

All lights were on fresh batteries.

Here's the beamshots:


The AA-light

ICONRogue2Duracell.jpg

ICON Rogue2 on high (Duracell alkalines)



1 x CR123 lights

FenixP1-CEQ2.jpg

Fenix P1-CE Q2


McGizmoHaikuHigh.jpg

McGizmo Haiku on high


McGizmoLS20.jpg

McGizmo LunaSol20 on high


McGizmoLS27.jpg

McGizmo LunaSol27 on high
--> notice the flood of the 6x3mm LEDs outside the sharp cut-off of the spill


McGizmoTi-PD.jpg

McGizmo Ti-PD (SSC P4) on high


SFE1B.jpg

Surefire E1B on high
--> notice the less defined spill with a smaller spill angle but the very acceptable field of vision the light offers midrange with a good brightness


SFL1Cree.jpg

Surefire L1 Cree on high
--> mine has an unusually big spot that can be clearly seen in the pic



2 x CR123 lights

MalkoffM60W.jpg

Malkoff M60W in SF C2
--> the aim on this one is slightly to the right, sorry.Very usabel spill despite the optics


McGizmo27LTSSC.jpg

McGizmo 27LT (SSC P4) on high


McGizmoAleph1SSCUbin917mA.jpg

McGizmo Aleph1 SSC P4 917mA on high
--> the reflector is not adapted to the Seoul LED, it is just screwed in on a LE


SFE2L2stage.jpg

Surefire E2L Cree 2-stage on high
--> I don't know why this one is so bright. It shouldn't be.


SFL5.jpg

Surefire L5


SFP60LinG2Z.jpg

SF P60L in G2Z
--> very broad spill


SFU2.jpg

Surefire U2A level 6


SPY005SSC.jpg

SPY005 SSC P4 on maximum burn



The McGizmo RedEye

McGizmoRedEyeHigh.jpg

This one is a real beast given the fact that it drives the seven rebels at just 200mA or so. The red LED really adds to color representation I think. Look at the subtle color shades of the trees and browns.

Here's the same light on low:

McGizmoRedEyeLow.jpg




The snowy environment permits very well to see the spill angle and beam distribution of the lights including the field of vision they offer. The reflected light could very well influence the results somewhat, but it's winter and there is snow, and that is the reality outside my white walls.

Finally I was able to hunt white surfaces even outside in real lilfe :D

bernie
 
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Great beamshots bernie!:thumbsup:

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These beamshots should be very helpful for those that are on the fence. I love the red eye !:grin2:
 
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Wow.... I really like the way you shot these..... with your camera back a ways and zoomed in...... it certainly allows us to get a good idea of how the various beams compare. Thanks for posting them.

By the way..... nice collection of lights.
 
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Well-done shootout, Bernie! :bow:
 
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Thanks Bernie!

Very nice.
I especially like the fact you took a distance of4 to 5 meters between your camera and the the mic stand with the light(s).
What was in the van? Burglars?
 
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Thanx guys ! :eek:

Nobody in the van I guess. Otherwise they would have made themselves heard and would have wanted me to stop and respect their privacy I guess :D

bernie
 
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You just want to brag that you have a Haiku :thumbsup:
 
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Excellent shots! Thank you. I always enjoy your comparisons. :twothumbs
 
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Nice shots and real nice arsenal of lights, drool.
Thanks for posting.
 
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Bernie, Nice beam shots. What the heck is a Redeye? I never heard of this before? Do you have any pictures of this light. I plan on picking up one of Don's creations sooner or later.

Thanks

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Awesome arsenal of lights, that Redeye is impressive. I bet you bothered the neighbors enough huh. Thats if they were in the van or in that house. Sounds like me with my Mc-e in the mornings when i take off to work at 5am:whistle:
 
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Bernie, if you have time, could you post a photo of the lights? I know some of us would appreciate that verrry much. :)
Danke!
 
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The RedEye is a McGizmo modded SF E3e, a one-off:

MCRedeye04.jpg


It sports 6 white and one red rebel at approx. 200mA:

McGRedEye2.jpg


It is my most loved light. I just wated to have a beamshot :D


The rest of the cast:

Blue-A1-2x123.jpg

McGizmo Aleph1 with the Seoul driven at 917 mA


Haiku-Profile.jpg

McGizmo Haiku, 1x123 light with 3 levels and clicky.High is at 625 mA or so to a Cree Q5.


Mc27LTmofobezel2.jpg

McGizmo McLuxIII-27LT with a Seoul at 917mA on high, 2x123


MCLS2003.jpg

MCLS2005.jpg

McGizmo LunaSol20 with a Dragon on the Center and 3x3mm Nichias in the outer rim
and
McGizmo LunaSol27 with a Cree Q4 in a McR17 and 6x3mm Nichias in th eouter rim
both on 1x123 in ti


McTi-PDskullsmall.jpg

McGizmo Ti-PD, the classic


Rogue2complete.jpg

ICON Rogue2, Cree Q5 2-stage clicky on 2xAA, PK's new light


E1B_thumb.jpg

SF E1B


L1_thumb.jpg

SF L1


SF1.jpg

SF U2A and E2L (next to a TITAN)


SurefireC3SW02KL5.jpg

SF KL5 on C3 (this is actually the old KL5 in the pic, I used the KL5A in the shootout)


SPY3.jpg

SPY005


Sorry, no pic of the Fenix, but I think you all know the little critter :)

bernie

P.S.: thanx guys :wave:
 
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Nice setup and shots.
 
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Nice work! This was and education and some surprises.

That Icon AA light (on alkalines no less) did very well and waxed some of the single CR123 lights. Too bad it's around 2.5 times the length.

I was surprised the L1 fell so badly to the E1B. I would love to see how a Milky L1 would fit into that set of shots. Have one?

I was disappointed in the Lunasols but I take it they're much smaller? A shot of all of the lights lined up would put things in perspective.

The Haiku and Aleph1 were very impressive . . . the show stealer was of course the Red Eye (thanks, I'm sure that's not cheap so you just cost me some boo-koo bucks, I'm sure!). Maybe I'll make that one my first custom light purchase. I don't have any exotics.
 
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Excellent pictures, both the very informative beam shots and the detailed pctures of the different lights!

Unfortunately I now want a Haiku more than before, that's very bad for my already meagre (read: non-existant) retirement plan!

BTW, I also have an E2L that's much brighter than it should be with it nominal 60 lumens (even considering the TIR optics), actually I can only see a very slight difference between it and my E1B.

PS Aren't you supposed to be out dancing in the streets (considering the maps of Fulda used in your shots)? Or wait, the dancing doesn't start until thursday. Beware of the witches and old women :naughty:
 
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Kiessling

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That Icon AA light (on alkalines no less) did very well and waxed some of the single CR123 lights. Too bad it's around 2.5 times the length.

I was surprised the L1 fell so badly to the E1B. I would love to see how a Milky L1 would fit into that set of shots. Have one?

I was disappointed in the Lunasols but I take it they're much smaller? A shot of all of the lights lined up would put things in perspective.

The Haiku and Aleph1 were very impressive . . . the show stealer was of course the Red Eye (thanks, I'm sure that's not cheap so you just cost me some boo-koo bucks, I'm sure!). Maybe I'll make that one my first custom light purchase. I don't have any exotics.

The length of the Rogue is actually a feature :D It is made to be relatively big and thus comfortable to use for average non-flashaholics.

My L1 has a very large spot, all other lights with that optic I have are more focussed. That's why it has less surface brightness. I like the beam actually.

The LunaSols are 1x123 lights with non hotspot-based beams. They are focussed on utility and runtime compromises, not peak luminous flux. The LS20 runs for 2 hours on 1x123 on high, for example. They push 425mA to the main LED and 20mA to each 3mm LED. They are not hotrods but working tools.

The Haiku is impressive, yepp. So is the Aleph, but this one takes 2x123.

Don't worry for the RedEye, there won't be a second one, unfortunately. You can spend your $$ on other cool lights.





PS Aren't you supposed to be out dancing in the streets (considering the maps of Fulda used in your shots)? Or wait, the dancing doesn't start until thursday. Beware of the witches and old women :naughty:

I will be hiding in my basement. :green:

You know Fulda, the center of the world? :D

bernie
 

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