Left Android; Joined IOS

ven

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Mr fixer, I after an update with the X ,had battery drain issues. It would be 100% going to bed, up at 5am and on 93%. So I rang Apple , all over the phone (brilliant I may add). They basically went into the phone and told me to turn lots of stuff off that did not need to be on. I did suggest it would help if updates did not turn things on in first place. Iirc it was stuff under accessibility . After that no issues, just a thought, could be things running in the back ground ,your not aware of.
 

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Mr fixer, I after an update with the X ,had battery drain issues. It would be 100% going to bed, up at 5am and on 93%. So I rang Apple , all over the phone (brilliant I may add). They basically went into the phone and told me to turn lots of stuff off that did not need to be on. I did suggest it would help if updates did not turn things on in first place. Iirc it was stuff under accessibility . After that no issues, just a thought, could be things running in the back ground ,your not aware of.

One thing I learned Ven is turn your phone off, then back on and stuff like chrome, emails and fakebook are off until you restart them. My android phones always restarted things on reboot.

But yeah updates turn things I call "big brother" apps back on. Apps that stay on or follow your movements. I had turned off a bunch of stuff that was back on after 13 was installed. The weird drain thing began when I turned on the magnifier where you can triple click the home button (on the 8's) and the camera comes on and is a magnifier. Turned that off on both devices but the mystery drain continued. Like I said one day it's one phone, other days it's the other.
 
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Me, I still run a yellow 5c.
It would scare me sh*tless having a 1000 pound phone in my pocket.

I'm more careful of my lights than my phone.
P

Its gone even crazier, the pro max is nearer 1500. Thats why most contracts are now with a choice of 36 months as apposed to 24. But the crafty *beeps* have changed the cheaper phones to 36 months also. Callums is near the end of a 24m contract on the 6s, now its the same monthly cost as it was 2yrs ago, yet over 36months.........yeh right! Thats O2 for you, i am sure other companies are trying that as well.
 

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The 5s I had for work ran flawless but when updated to ios12 required for a company app it did not have enough memory space. They had been bugging me to upgrade but I liked the smaller sized body. Plus it's a huge hassle swapping anything owned by the company to upgrade because of all the mumbo-jumbo required. When it would not update I told them I can just delete the couple thousand photos on it and free up the space. Nope, you have to have a new phone. They were insisting on a X.

When I was chatting with the IT lady about it, practically begging her to just let me erase the photos a new guy goes walking past with a phone about the size of a 5. "Hey new kid, what model is that?" I asked. With a look of sadness he whimpers "it's a clunky old 8". Bing!! "hey can I get one of those?" I asked the lady. She types in some stuff on her computer, then clicks some stuff and says "it'll be here tomorrow". Next day it arrived. It had been mailed all the way across America in a day. The company has some deal with a giant cell phone signal provider to get us new gear in a day for the cost of the gear. And the deal they struck of the iPhone 8 was 99 cents. Yes, under a dollar. The catch for the company though is my phone uses celular data for internet connection because I do all this stuff on their internet from remote locations. So it guzzles data every month. The celular signal provider aint stupid.

My personal is an 8s or 8+,whatever they call the model with two lenses. It's handy to have the full res 2x zoom,but unless you hold it steady against something the pix are often more fuzzy than a cropped wide angle one. Mid to low light pix for example are generally better wide lens and cropped due to hand my shake.

My son had a white 5c or 6c (I forget) but the camera kept malfunctioning after being repaired so he opted for a monthly payment when the 11 came out. I was used to a payment, what I never could get used to though was android devices breaking or crashing before the last payment. My wife's samsungs would faithfully crash within days of their next model release. Three in a row did that. Now I had good service from my first "moto droid", the another, then an HTC that began to flail about. The moto phones were before payments where the carrier ate most of the cost but you paid them back by buying data. Later there were unlimited data plans but you paid full price for the device. Hence 24 payments if you choose.

I was on vacation in a scenic location and had left my camera gear at home as the idea was to photograph the whole thing using the surprise flaws of a cel-cam and edit them artfully later. But one morning something went wrong with my HTC so after one photo the battery would die. Charge it two hours and guess what, one photo, dead battery again. Ok I'll fix that. Carry a battery pack around and keep it plugged in. Well that worked great for a few photos but then the malfunction deleted my photo library from view. Oh they were still in the memory, but being blocked from view. I could see them on my laptop so I knew they were there. The camera refused to work too. Man, screw that!!

We went into a nearby town, population 325 and about half of them it seemed were buying a celphone in the one store there. Four hours later the patron who would probably struggle to get an order at McDonalds correct was baffled and unable to fix my ailing HTC. Just sell me another phone. Turns out all they had in stock were moto play. Eh, kinda cool with the ability to attach a wall projector, a Hassleblad full function point and shoot camera and a loud speaker if you choose. Plus reviews on the camera were decent. Why not? So I left there obligated with monthly payments again before the HTC was paid off. Not happy about that, but at least I could take pictures again. Crazy part is when I got home the HTC was working normal again. Ugh! I turned it on to download photos and my background picture was back and all the photos were available again.

About a year later I noticed the battery on my "play" was swelling. Yes, the glass screen was beginning to separate from the body in the center. Each day the separation grew. Now everything worked fine. I took it to a local celphone store for repair and they said 2-6 weeks to have it back. That's it!! I'm done with Android devices. I had told the Mrs next time her Samsung failed on schedule to buy an apple since my work one (5s) was 3 years old and flawless. But Samsungs had a new curved screen out. So again she bought another samsung shortly before my play began to self destruct.

The day I took my play in for repair her almost new samsung had a permanent pink line down the screen that samsung knew about but said "it was only a few like that and we don't know how to fix it". A few stores down was a phone repair shop. The pimple faced kid said "yeah we can fix it but so many are that way we cannot get the parts from Samsung right now. He said he could fix my play as well. Well, I decided to go back to the celphone store and buy an Apple. While looking at available models Mrs Fixer stands behind me and starts rubbing my shoulders and says "can I have an Apple too?"

I do all my forum entries from a mobile device. The Apple friendly Chrome is glitchy here at CPF, but I have learned to work around that. And the CPF Apple app is great. I like it a lot better than the android app. I did not like the direction google was taking android as all kinds of apps kept turning on and each new version of android gave less control over that. With Apple I just hit one switch and background refresh is off for everything. So if you turn off notifucations in apps themselves they stay off.

With android, every time my screen lit up Chrome turned back on. If my phone was idle it turned itself back on every 30 minutes. If I left Sears with screw drivers I'd see ads for screwdrivers at Sears at every web site with ads. Regardless of what things I turned off and privacy boxes I checked. And good Lord, the spam emails were ridiculous. Single Asian women, male enhancement pills, free vacations, notifications of lottery winning at places I had not played the lottery like "the South American lottery". Not to mention emails from Sears for……screwdrivers. With Apple, spam is minimal. And it's typically emails for companies I did business with in the past. No more "single Russian women"……

So yeah, there are some limitations with Apple. I don't want to have to use their iTunes app to turn songs into ringtones etc but I also read how to work around that and changed the tags to work on my phone. The limitations to me are worth the hassle free, reliability.
 
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...If I left Sears with screw drivers I'd see ads for screwdrivers at Sears at every web site with ads.

I suspect there was an app running in the background that was listening for a location beacon in the store or doing some other geofencing trickery. There are both bluetooth and ultrasonic beacons that have been used in stores for marketing purposes. It's creepy and a little stalker-ish.
 

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The mystery drain continues.
On the weekends my iPhone 8 sets idle and the 8 plus is used to watch videos, chat on the net etc. During the week it is the opposite.
My idle phone was down to 60% after being unused for 24 hours. Normally it would be 90 or above. Meanwhile the other one seems to be solar charging or something as battery life is awesome. It makes me wonder if they are searching for better signals when the mystery drain is taking place. Like the one getting awesome mileage is happy with signals from a particular tower while the other is searching for better.

If one drained fast everyday while the other guzzled battery everyday I'd just chalk it up to that's just the way it is or if both had good days and not good days, but they keep flipping roles. One day one is the energizer bunny while the other is a battery hog. Used or idle…… next day roles reverse.
Hmmmmmm
 

ven

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It will take 30-60 mins of your time mr fixer, but it will be worth it. Ring apple, i went through the process to make an appointment. Basically i ended up with a tec on the phone sorting it. Very helpful, came away pleased(which lets be honest, these days is a very rare experience!). So thats what i would give a try, nothing to loose other than 1/2hr or so.
 

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I have had to twice in the last 5yrs. One time with phone drain, other time wiping out my cloud pics. Both times excellent helpful and honesty , made me happy I chose apple. I’m no fan boy by any stretch, I know apple gets a lot of hate(usually android users and vice versa). But they came through and issues all sorted out there a then .

good luck, hopefully soon sorted.
 

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Fast forward a couple of years, I'm still glad I went with the iOS from a hardware reliability stand point but backing up the device to a PC is less than user friendly.

Go the import from DCIM to photos route results in lots of photos not found. Copy/paste method results in the PC/device communication suddenly stopping. Back up in iTunes and wherethehell are my photos results. Finding them is possible if you command prompt here, click/type code there. I need a cheat sheet. 🥴

With android that parts was slick as motor oil simple. I'm still not going back to android though.

Eh, first world problems, right?
 

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I'm, ah, going to annoy you guys. I had an original iPhone, had fun jailbreaking it. Had it until iPhone 4 came out, then I got that. I still have it, but, in late 2013 my economics was a bit worse than it is now, but not by much. I was really sick and tired of that phone bill, like $70/month with some data package. I had friends paying $120/month, so for a long time I felt frugal. But in late 2013, I realized that I hadn't received a phone call in two years, and I had only called out a single digit number of calls in that time.

I asked myself wt-ef I was doing to myself. I was long off contract and cancelled my AT&T bill. I had installed Google Voice on the phone at some point before, and set up my number using my cell number, but in Jan 2014 I switched that to my mother's landline number in Florida. Later, I switched it to my father's landline in Virginia. In 2020 I was able to afford a 5th Gen iPad mini, installed Google Voice on that, as the battery in the iPhone 4 didn't hold much charge anymore.

But the long and short of it is, I make way, way more phone calls now than I ever did when I had cell service, and I haven't had a phone bill in 9 years. I do miss the remote data, which is very convenient for getting around using Maps, but I conservatively estimate I have saved $7,500 on phone bills, but it's probably closer to $10K.
 

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Ive had Iphones since they came out. First the original, then a 4s, 6s, now the 14. Never had any hardware or significant software problems with them. The OS is smooth, simple to understand & use. I dont do contracts, I buy the phone, use it as long as practically possible, then switch to the newest one. Ive had my 6s for almost 7 years.

I don't do very much with my phone. I text, call, check emails & the weather, train connections, sometimes directions. Android gives you many more options & more customization but I don't need it. Going from the 6s to the 14, I don't notice much of a difference when using it, except of cause battery life. Mainly the worse ergonomics (thicker, more blocky). I preferred how the 6s felt in the hand. Also, whoever designed that camera sticking out of the back, so that the phone cant lay flat on a table, needs to be fired (probably the same genius who designed the magic mouse charging port). I cant shake the feeling this was partially to encourage sales of their phone cases (which are now practically required).
 

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I use an otterbox metro or something. Clear silicone with no face cover. It has lots of scrathes. I always liked the soft Zagg face cover and the new "unbreakable glass" cover on mine has been replaced twice and needs a third one because it's not unbreakable. I use the LED lights when ringing feature because it lights up the entire clear case. It's pretty obvious when being contacted without folks around me putting up with my Sam Jackson saying "say what again!" ringtone.

For the work phone I went with a life proof to make the ear piece water tight. I've killed some ear speakers using it while sweating profusely. Trouble with that one is the lens cover scratches easily. Photos for work looked foggy like when the camera panned to Joan Collins on Dynasty. The slightly frosted lens hid all those wrinkles. But for work pix details matter so I cut out the lens cover and surrounded it with silicone caulk like an odd shaped o'ring.
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I'm on the verge of jumping out my Windows and landing on an Apple. Back when I was all into photography the pros all swore by Mac. I stayed with Windows and found an open box gamer for 1/2 the price of a Mac. That was 11 years ago. It's nearing time to replace that 18" gamer. Not for internet or games, but for storing photos and music.

A much smaller screen can do the job now that I'm not all about editing photos and such. I've seen a 14" gamer with Windows that looks good but the macbook with an M2 is looking mighty tempting.
 
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