Lights for daylight visibility?

JustRidingAlong

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Looking for recommendations on daylight-visible lights. I'm going to start commuting to work (approx 1 hour each way), and want something to give me a little more visibility to motorists.

For rear lights, I'm considering the following:

  • Blackburn Mars 4.0
  • NiteRider Cherry Bomb
  • PDW Radbot 1000
  • Princeton Tec Swerve
As far as a front light, I'm open to any suggestions. I have helmet/bar-mounted Amoeba's that I use for off-road riding, but I think those would be overkill for daylight use.

Note that I would prefer something self-contained that runs on AA or AAA batteries (front and rear).

Thanks in advance.
 
Just a comment on your rear lights; I've heard good things about the planet bike superflash which you may want to add into your list of lights to consider. I've found a couple people mention how it comes apart while riding easily, but it sounds like this has been fixed on any produced since 2008.
 
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It is an interesting question. One I'm working on. Lights can look great up close to the bike but do they catch the eye of a motorist?

http://www.cpfgreen.com/vb/showpost.php?p=6872&postcount=137

This post's video and discussion are of a bike with over 800 lumens (at half power) of headlights on and three Planet Bike Superstealths in the mid to late afternoon riding east away from the sun and back directly into it. I was underwhelmed.

Tonight I videotaped the same rig under street lights and on a rural unlit road car lights off or on. At half power, the headlights look better to me riding than my cars powerful halogens. Those videos will be edited and posted tomorrow. If I can, I am repeating the video in the above link with minor changes like making ABSOLUTELY sure the lights were on (that poor a performance has me wondering). I will also aim the Superstealths for the camera and we will see. Different sun angle, that sort of thing. It may be I had the only sun angle that washes them out and we benefit from daytime running lights under any other lighting situation.

I have run an HID with 600 lumens and these new headlights at both 800 and 1600 lumens in daylight and there ARE being seen as daytime running lights. It is harder to blind drivers with glare in the day. There are some who have expressed the idea that more is not enough in a daytime bike light because of all the other visual clutter vying for drivers' attention. So the Amoeba's may be the ticket, but too wide for night street use. That is the reason for the videos. I thought it would be obvious. I thought it would be a simpler project. I thought wrongly.

As to the Planet Bike Superstealth: there is a thread here about them (use Google box at top of page). I have three newer ones with no dependability issues. Their relatively narrow beam may not be enough in traffic with drivers' eyes as low as they are in sport cars and as high as they are in cabs of semi trailer trucks in the daytime. (Video will tell.)

Princeton Tec Swerve: fantastically obnoxious flash mode but both of mine had switch issues, the first replaced under warranty, and its replacement is slowly succumbing on the errand bike. Maybe they fixed that.

I have no experience with the others you listed. I am beginning to think a 'scorched earth' policy in daytime lights may apply to taillights too. Something like Krtonik's red devil or the high powered Dinotte tailight.

I had not thought of googling (dumb) this concept under different words to see whether there are pictures or videos of daytime bike lights already. I will work on my videos and you can help yourself (and me) by seeing if anyone has done this sort of thing and posted here before.
 
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I drive the route I'll be riding, and have been making an effort to note which visual elements register a rider as "bike" or "cyclist." Hands-down, the most noticeable item has been the screaming yellow Pearl Izumi clothing. Even so-called "bright" red or orange clothes are much less visible than the PI jackets/vests. I picked up one of the following for $35 from REI (20% discount code + year-end dividend):

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My riding will take place between 7:30a-9:00a and 5:30p-7:00p. During those time frames I'm thinking that the high-viz clothing will be the line of defense, and that lighting will be secondary. The folks on bikeforums.net speak highly of the Dinotte tail lights, and I'm seriously considering biting the bullet and purchasing one of those (or possibly a front/rear set).
 
Just a comment on your rear lights; I've heard good things about the planet bike superflash which you may want to add into your list of lights to consider. I've found a couple people mention how it comes apart while riding easily, but it sounds like this has been fixed on any produced since 2008.

another vote for the superflash... it's a great light.
 
High viz clothing seems like the best first line of defense for daylight hours. It works amazingly well...
 
Just back from taping the lights in daylight again. Added and edited file to prior post in commuting thread. I wish I had a beter camera for this. Oh well.

The very thing that tames my headlights to not blind oncoming motorists for night use, makes them all but useless to cars not directly in front UNLESS I aim them their way. Which says that floody trail lights would help day visibility on the road BUT are going to be annoying.

Any helmet light can be aimed at a driver as warning, but tight spots are best. Grabs their attention better that yelling at the same distance. Though yelling works well, too. Mine I think saved a care from passing and straight into me on a blind hill wher my light was the first the driver saw of me.

On steady, the two Superflashes were visible in the video to about 300 feet at 7:00 with the sun low and straight at them which is close to worst case. That is far enough they give some help, not as much as hoped but helpful.

I could see that ANSI vest (which is similar to the Pearl Izumi color BTW) out to 1200 feet in the lighted street and *** far as the high beams went in the dark road! You can't tell what the bright blob is, but you can see it. Cyclists are rare here. So I have not seen the Pearl Izumi Yellow in traffic as a motorist. But the video bears out exactly what you said about it. :thumbsup:

I hope this helps. And good luck on the commuting!
 
My Ortlieb panniers have some decent-sized reflective trim/appliques, but I'm probably going to augment that with some SOLAS tape on the rear fender. My rack allows the bags to be mounted lower than on a conventional rack, so I'll probably place my lights on the seatpost.

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I have a PB Superflash, and I just picked up a Solarforce L2m (1xRCR123A) and a Fenix bike mount as my tail. Picked up a P60 drop-in from nailbender, and it has some serious strobe modes.

It's running an Osram Diamond Dragon in red @ 1.0A (although I'm not sure about strobe modes).

http://catalog.osram-os.com/catalog...Oid=000000040002682701410023&act=showBookmark

I'll be running that coupled w/ my PB Superflash. Youtube video to follow. :)

I don't have a diffuser for it yet, so I'm afraid view angles will be quite poor, but I gotta order one from flashlightlens.com
 
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Another vote for the PlanetBike SuperFlash.

I remember, once a fellow CPFer caught up to me in his race bike and told me he had seen my SuperFlash blinking from 3-5 blocks away on a sunny winter morning.
 
I Personally don't like the Superflash. Don't like the (low) light output, the AAA batteries and its lack of water-tightness.
I Prefer my own light, a 1 Watt Red LED with clear diffuser and red reflector, fed from an external battery.
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The clothing that I found most visible in the dusk is workman's clothing of a fellow commuter:
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The brightly coloured clothing with large areas of reflective cloth. I Notice him hundreds of meters away, even if his tail light is obscured by luggage. Must be a reason road workers use this kind of clothing ;)
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I have a PB Superflash, and I just picked up a Solarforce L2m (1xRCR123A) and a Fenix bike mount as my tail. Picked up a P60 drop-in from nailbender, and it has some serious strobe modes.

It's running an Osram Diamond Dragon in red @ 1.0A (although I'm not sure about strobe modes).

http://catalog.osram-os.com/catalog...Oid=000000040002682701410023&act=showBookmark

I'll be running that coupled w/ my PB Superflash. Youtube video to follow. :)

I don't have a diffuser for it yet, so I'm afraid view angles will be quite poor, but I gotta order one from flashlightlens.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICa5ppUVzy4

Solarforce L2m host running 1 x Ultrafire XSL 18350.
 
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