*LIST* of LED flashlights WARM/NEUTRAL/~4000K

[SaturnNyne]

1) To avoid subjectively deciding which flashlight/pill *appears* "warmer," the sole criterion is the manufacturer's stated specification?

2) When I compare my Inova T1 and my Dereelight 5A Q3, they both seem "warmer" than my other lights. But the list is for those lights with emitters *specified* by the manufacturer as being warm...? Or is this incorrect. 😕

The K2TFFC is an excellent cool emitter with a very good average tint that is considerably warmer than most cool leds. However, while yours might indeed be just about as warm as a special warm emitter, others will probably be not quite that warm, and some will actually be quite close to what we'd call an unremarkable neutral white. They tend to be warm-er, but there's still variation and getting a specific tint is still not their top priority. A true warm emitter uses a special phosphor that gives up some efficiency (not a huge amount) in favor of a more pleasing tint than any "cool" emitter (that I've seen) is capable of. Although, that said, my M60WL is a little brighter than my T1 and has a very similar runtime; I think the K2 isn't exactly cutting edge in efficiency either. They're not at all bad either though.

Just how close is your TFFC to a 5A? My T1 has a nice warm tint and was the best I'd ever seen.... until I compared it to a real warm emitter. The K2 has nice, strong reds and yellows, but they suddenly look very weak and ordinary next to a warmy.

 

[LEDAdd1ct]

Just how close is your TFFC to a 5A? My T1 has a nice warm tint and was the best I'd ever seen.... until I compared it to a real warm emitter. The K2 has nice, strong reds and yellows, but they suddenly look very weak and ordinary next to a warmy.

Great question; I was ruminating on that myself! I would have to say the tint of the Inova T1 2008 is more "golden" than my 5A Q3, which is distinctly more orangey than the Inova. Next to my 5A Q3, the K2 looks greeny/pukey colored. I prefer the 5A; but, I would call them both "warmer" than cool white, just in different ways.

Thank you for explaining the difference!

 

[EngrPaul]

I posted this on another thread, but I thought I'd paste it here as well, since it's relevant.

Tint is subjective, and even with the pictures below it will show up differently depending on your monitor and settings.

Even so, they are good for comparison sake.

Camera on "Automatic White Balance" and automatic exposure.

Picture #1
(L) Nitecore D10 GDP (cool), High with 1xAW14500
(M) Raidfire Spear, OP reflector, 3A Q3, High with 1xAW18650
(R) Dereelight DBS V2, OP reflector, 5A Q3, High with 1xAW18650

Picture #2
(L) Lumapower MVP, 3x Stock WD(?) Q5, Medium with 2xAW14500
(M) Lumapower D-Mini, 3A Q3, Non-digital pill, High, with 1xAW RCR123
(R) Jetbeam Military, OP reflector, 5A Q3, High with 1xAW18650

 

[EngrPaul]

Dereelight On 14mm PCB 5A Q3

Added this source of neutral white emitters mounted on small boards.

http://www.dereelight.com/emitters.htm

 

[divine]

$36 is a good price for 5 of them. I might have to order some from them.

Next time I need a new pill or dropin, I will get some. I'd really like to make an ITP light a 5A.

 

[NonSenCe]

Dereelight 14mm PCB 5A Q3...

never noticed them before in the site. cool.

wonder which lights could they they fit as is?

would it be difficult to change one?

pictorial how to do 4 dummies anyone?


if you end up doing the ITP mod please please make a diy guide of it. 🙂

as itp´s are now in my top 10 of my wanna-buy-buy-buy list. and one with warm emitter for 9 dollars more and easy mod? yeah straight to top 3.

*here is hoping the manufacturers start to do these warmer tint leds as options, soon. :wave:

 

[EngrPaul]

Dereelight 14mm PCB 5A Q3...

never noticed them before in the site. cool.

wonder which lights could they they fit as is?

would it be difficult to change one?

pictorial how to do 4 dummies anyone?

For a lot of applications, You'll just be replacing the PCB. 14mm fits a lot of applications, but you can lose some of the centering since it's probably smaller than the original board.

Here is where I used the Dereelight LED's in a swap:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=224920

 

[Wiggle]

Think I'll order some of those Q3 5As. I've got a Trustfire TR-801 that I like other than the blue-ish tint, could be a good canditate for an emitter swap.

 

[EngrPaul]

Here's a place to buy single SSC P4 Hi-CRI "Natural White" emitters:

Bare emitter:

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=S42180

On Star Board:

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=S42182

Additional Info:

http://www.zled.com/en/product/prd/zpowerLEDp4.asp

 

[divine]

The RA lights are actually using a warm GDP emitter. It seems to do a pretty nice job. I am enjoying mine. 🙂

Paul, did you figure out where to get the Q3 bin bare emitters yet?

 

[EngrPaul]

The RA lights are actually using a warm GDP emitter. It seems to do a pretty nice job. I am enjoying mine. 🙂

Paul, did you figure out where to get the Q3 bin bare emitters yet?

Cutter has bares in three tints: 3A, 5A, and 5C, all Q3 flux.

 

[divine]

I just got done swapping the emitter to a warmer one in my EX10 GDP and Nitecore Extreme GDP, and it looks great!

I ordered some of those bare emitters from Cutter, and I'll try to swap them into a couple stainless steel LD01's I have.

I ordered two Neutral LD01 (Aluminum) from Pro-Light. I also have the Neutral Nitecore Extreme from Pro-Light, which seems practically as bright as the Q5 one.

 

[NonSenCe]

time to bump this thread up as many lights coming available..

EZ AA.. coming..
Zebralight 501.. optional if asked from factory..
Eagletac P10A2, available at pts atleast.

eagletac m2 too..

 

[Wiggle]

Just thought I'd throw in a link to my thread where I compare some neutral/warm tints to some cooler ones. Q3 5A and a warmer Q2 are compared to cooler R2 and an MC-E.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=227388

 

[EngrPaul]

I'm starting to get grumpy about retailers who say they'll make Neutral/Warm lights available if you send them an email or say so in the notes when you check out.

Where's the commitment from the retailers? How hard is it to add another checkout option? Soon we'll hear "We offered them in neutral, but sales were poor".

Another disapointment is when one retailer sells them, and another doesn't. The only logical reason is that some retailers don't want to carry extra inventory.

I'll continue to add these special cases, but it's making me :duh2:

 

[saabluster]

I noticed after turning off a neutral white light, the emitter glows a salmon color. The warmer the emitter, the stronger the glow. 😱oo:

I have noticed this with both neutral and cool white SSC LEDs.

 

[divine]

Pro-Light is out of Neutral Twisties after I finally convinced myself to get one.

I'm going to try out the Neutral Wolf-Eyes MC-E light instead. Should make for a very nice light.

 

[divine]

I went to Zebralight's web page today and they have a H501w and H60w listed, but not available yet.

 

[Vermonter73]

Jetbeam Raptor is available at BugOutGearUSA w/ Q3 5A

 

[gunga]

$36 is a good price for 5 of them. I might have to order some from them.

Next time I need a new pill or dropin, I will get some. I'd really like to make an ITP light a 5A.

Sorry, I'm missing something here. Where do you see $36 for 5 leds?

BTW, how does one order the emitters at Derrlight? I see the link to the emitters but no way to add to cart. They are $9 each so I'm curious where the 5 for $36 comes from?