Liteflux LF2XT (Part 2)

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Flying Turtle said:
Good idea. And after reading it I realized I did have some of these tweezers. The pill was easily tightened, but unfortunately this seemed to remove the pill from power. In order for it to work the pill must be loosened to the point of rattling. I'm beginning to wonder if the inner sleeve is not sticking up high enough to make good contact.

I contacted EliteLED earlier and they will be communicating with LiteFlux tonight.

Looks like a return may be in order. Too bad. I'm sure resolution will be fast.
Geoff
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I think you can try some DIY before return.
Firstly remove the pill.
Then check your plastic bag for accessories, and you will find three O rings. The diameter of the second largest O ring is same as the outer diameter of the front face of the pill.
Use this second largest O ring as the spacer between the reflector and the pill, and place this second largest O ring on the peripheral recess (the lowest portion) of the bottom face of the reflector (with the assistance of tweezers).
Then assemble the pill again.
This quick DIY should solve your problem in one minute. :sssh:
 
KuKu427 said:
CaNo is just rickrolling ya...
It's a little joke
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Well, it isn't funny. It is an irrelevant nuisance and a waste of people's time. It is no better than spam. I've deleted it.

CaNo, you are warned - do not post anything like that again, or your account here will be suspended.
 
HighLumens said:
Nice videos man. I think I will upload something about the programmability of the LF2XT as soos as I get mine 😛
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Thanks you! You'll probably get your light pretty soon. I know some buyers in Germany and Belgium have already received theirs.
 
about babydoc's discovery of the issue of not being able to select the number of user mode when auto-off is turn on, LiteFlux has acknowledged the issue. but at the same time, they said that instead of selecting the number of user mode, you can actually change the auto-off timer to be 8 seconds, 16 sec, 24 sec, 32 sec or 40 sec.

the basic minimum time slot of the auto-off timer is 1 slot. and 1 slot = 8.192 seconds. so instead of selecting the number of user modes, user are actually selcting the number of slots for the auto-off timer.

1 slot =8.192 sec.
2 slots=16.384 sec.
3 slots=24.576 sec.
4 slots=32,768 sec.
5 slots=40.96 sec.

you can say "it is not a bug, it is a feature"

i have not personally verified this but i am going to try it out.

let us know how yours turn out.

khoo
 
juplin said:
I think you can try some DIY before return.
Firstly remove the pill.
Then check your plastic bag for accessories, and you will find three O rings. The diameter of the second largest O ring is same as the outer diameter of the front face of the pill.
Use this second largest O ring as the spacer between the reflector and the pill, and place this second largest O ring on the peripheral recess (the lowest portion) of the bottom face of the reflector (with the assistance of tweezers).
Then assemble the pill again.
This quick DIY should solve your problem in one minute. :sssh:
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Thanks for the tips, juplin. I gave it a try and the rattle was instantly solved. I think they may have forgotten to put that o-ring in behind the reflector. Unfortunately the start-up trouble still exists. Elite got back to me and said to send the light back to them for an emitter change-out. Hate to give it up for a couple weeks.

Geoff
 
TITAN1833 said:
That still remains,it's only changed if you have it activated and then try and change modes,then it will go to 40 sec's BabyDoc explained it better in his post about his findings :twothumbs
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Nice so,as said by LED Cool, it's not an bug, it's a feature!😗lovecpf
 
The other night I was able to take the LF2-XT out when it was very dark and do a very quick test. On high with the Li-Ion it is very impressive outside. It did beat the LD01 that was running an L91 lithium.

I think the small reflector might make the indoor beam a bit misleading on just how many lumens this thing is throwing out the front. At least indoors to me it seemed good, but not what I initially expected from Li-Ion, outdoors however I saw that it was really amazing when I looked in the distance.

I've been a bit spolied lately with some really bright lights so I may have to readjust. Hopefully on the weekend I'll be able to trying with a few of my other regular EDC lights.

Yes this is a Very nice light!


Flying Turtle, sorry to hear yours has to go back... I hope you've already got it in the mail so it will be back to you that much sooner. Sounds like that one missed QC for sure.
 
copperfox said:
When you click the light on, does it take 1/4 sec or so to turn on like the LF5XT here?
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The LF3XT corrected the turn-on delay that was seen with the earlier LF5xt. The LF2XT, which copied much of the LF3XT interface, is just like the LF3XT in regard to having NO turn-on delay. There is, however, a slight delay on turn-off with all of these models. This 0.3sec turn-off delay is necessary because the light needs to wait for a possible mulitple clicks (another commands you could issue instead of just turning off the light) before it knows that you are just turning off the light.
 
StandardBattery said:
The other night I was able to take the LF2-XT out when it was very dark and do a very quick test. On high with the Li-Ion it is very impressive outside. It did beat the LD01 that was running an L91 lithium.[/B]
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Not apples to oranges, though. The cell in your LD01, an L92 lithium, yields a fair bit less than 1/2 of the output of that obtained from a 10440 Li-Ion. (4.9 EV w/Li-Ion vs. 3.5 EV with L92).

If you compare the LD01 and LF2XT with the same Li-Ion 10440 in each, the LD01 gives almost twice the output of the LF2XT (80% more). The LD01 on 10440 Li-Ion is an extremely formidible competitor when it comes to sheer output. Amazing, really. Not to take anything away from the LF2XT, however, which has a host of amazing merits in it's own right and is fairly bright for the size with Li-Ion power.
 
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I'd say that regarding the auto shutoff feature that I cannot imagine anyone wanting a light to auto shutoff after 8 seconds (or even 16 seconds) unless you were using it for some special photo effects. You would just turn it on and turn it off. And it doesn't seem you can program it to 3 minutes without doing a hard reset so as much as I'd like to call it a feature I think BabyDoc nailed it - it's a BUG. It's really not anything I'm concerned with but I think Liteflux needs to include the info BabyDoc discovered and the solution he describes in their manual. And a FREE light for BabyDoc's hard investigative work 😀
 
Wow that LDO1 puts out some lumen's if it has 80% more than the LF2XT,I'm wondering though for how long it can sustain 221 lumen out? my guess is not long maybe under 10 minutes to 50% :shrug:







[edit]I agree with matrix 100% on what he said,for me the 8,16 second shut off would annoy the hell out of me and I doubt I'll use the 3 minute shut off either, but!that's just me.
 
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matrixshaman said:
I'd say that regarding the auto shutoff feature that I cannot imagine anyone wanting a light to auto shutoff after 8 seconds (or even 16 seconds) unless you were using it for some special photo effects. You would just turn it on and turn it off. And it doesn't seem you can program it to 3 minutes without doing a hard reset so as much as I'd like to call it a feature I think BabyDoc nailed it - it's a BUG. It's really not anything I'm concerned with but I think Liteflux needs to include the info BabyDoc discovered and the solution he describes in their manual. And a FREE light for BabyDoc's hard investigative work 😀
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I got an email from Gary at EliteLed. He has talked to LiteFlux about the Auto/off bug, and they just don't seem to get the significance of the problem. Although they see the problem, they aren't sure if they should fix it. They said that originally they had intended that the Auto/OFF time period would be user definable, but when they couldn't find enough memory space to do that, they fixed the autooff at 3 minutes. Somehow, they didn't entirely eliminate the user definability they were trying to incorporate, resulting in this bug. He states that depending on the number of modes you start with when you then enable the autoshut off and try to change the modes again, the time period changes. If you have 1 mode and select then anything more, you get 8 seconds. If you have 5 modes, and select any other number of modes you get 40 seconds, etc. They see this as possibly a feature some people may want to use, although why anyone would want an 8 second shutdown or even a 40 second period completely eludes me. Not only that, IMO a factory reset as the only only way to get back a 3 minute shut off, is just not accepatable! The main thing that LiteFlux doesn't get or understand, is NOT only do you screw up the auto shut off time, YOU CAN'T CHANGE and SAVE THE NEW NUMBER OF MODES, as long as you have the auto-off turned on! While a warning in the instructions regarding this could avoid problems, it certainly isn't a user friendly solution to an obvious mistake in their firmware. I wrote Gary back that LiteFlux needs to fix this, because in no way imaginable, in the way this adjustability works, is this a useful feature. I believe they will listen.


OH, about the free flashlight, that's a nice thought, but I would rather be a beta tester for them on any new projects and avoid issues like this. Having said all this, I do still think this light is great! No product is perfect and LiteFlux has come a long way with improving earlier model design issues that have fortunately not found their way here.
 
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BabyDoc said:
Not only that, IMO a factory reset as the only only way to get back a 3 minute shut off, is just not accepatable!
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BabyDoc said:
OH, about the free flashlight, that's a nice thought, but I would rather be a beta tester for them on any new projects and avoid issues like this. Having said all this, I do still think this light is great! No product is perfect and LiteFlux has come a long way with improving earlier model design issues that have fortunately not found their way here.
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:twothumbs
 
BabyDoc said:
I would rather be a beta tester for them on any new projects and avoid issues like this. Having said all this, I do still think this light is great! No product is perfect and LiteFlux has come a long way with improving earlier model design issues that have fortunately not found their way here.
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DHart said:
Not apples to oranges, though. The cell in your LD01, an L92 lithium, yields a fair bit less than 1/2 of the output of that obtained from a 10440 Li-Ion. (4.9 EV w/Li-Ion vs. 3.5 EV with L92).

If you compare the LD01 and LF2XT with the same Li-Ion 10440 in each, the LD01 gives almost twice the output of the LF2XT (80% more). The LD01 on 10440 Li-Ion is an extremely formidible competitor when it comes to sheer output. Amazing, really. Not to take anything away from the LF2XT, however, which has a host of amazing merits in it's own right and is fairly bright for the size with Li-Ion power.
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Thanks for the info. I understand it's not apples to apples comparison, I'm just providing an output reference since many more people probably know what the output of an LD01 on L91 is than know what the output is on 10440. I never run the LD01 on 10440 myself.

I don't believe in MAX output at all cost, it has to be safe, it should be stable and maintainable, but most of all it should suit the application and the light, otherwise you need a different light for the application.

I'm very happy with the light. The Auto-Off-Bug is a bit annoying, but I think I can work around it because I'm likely to program VERY infrequently and change the number of mode even less Frequently. LiteFlux should definetly fix it in all models not shipped yet.
 
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