Looking for a lathe...

Tekno_Cowboy

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I'm looking at getting a lathe sometime this spring, and I'm wondering where I can get a small, decent lathe for cheap. Used or new doesn't matter to me, as long as the quality is there.

Any suggestions?
 
A 7x machine makes for a good entry level lathe, and right now Harbor Freight has the 8x14 on special (until Feb 28 or so), for something around $485 or so 😉

EDIT: the HF special is even cheaper:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2838593&postcount=67

Will

I was at HF this weekend, there was no such deal advertised. Maybe the sale started today? I'll have to swing back by tomorrow.

I'm in the same boat. I'm having trouble deciding if I should bide my time and try to find something used, or just buy one of the HF bench lathes. I guess if I can get the $485 deal, I'll just buy the HF.

Anyway, I have a question about this lathe. The HF website says the following...

"[FONT=arial, sans-serif]SAE threads: 18 threads from 12 to 52 TPI"[/FONT]

Which 18 thread pitches?

Thanks
 
A 7x machine makes for a good entry level lathe, and right now Harbor Freight has the 8x14 on special (until Feb 28 or so), for something around $485 or so 😉

EDIT: the HF special is even cheaper:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2838593&postcount=67

Will

I didn't see either on the website, could you put up a link?

Will a 7x or 8x lathe be big enough for doing things like making a Maglite heatsink, or boring out a surefire, or making a 18650 size Ti light?
 
I have never seen a lathe larger than 7" x 10" in any of the 3 local HF stores here. Except that they have a book with other machinery that they can get/order for you.


Will, What is the through spindle bore size on the 8" x 14" ?
 
I have never seen a lathe larger than 7" x 10" in any of the 3 local HF stores here. Except that they have a book with other machinery that they can get/order for you.


Will, What is the through spindle bore size on the 8" x 14" ?

That was my next question 😀
 
I was at HF this weekend, there was no such deal advertised. Maybe the sale started today? I'll have to swing back by tomorrow.

I'm in the same boat. I'm having trouble deciding if I should bide my time and try to find something used, or just buy one of the HF bench lathes. I guess if I can get the $485 deal, I'll just buy the HF.

Anyway, I have a question about this lathe. The HF website says the following...

"[FONT=arial, sans-serif]SAE threads: 18 threads from 12 to 52 TPI"[/FONT]

Which 18 thread pitches?

Thanks

All of the ones used in flashlights 😉

Seriously, the selections are very nice for the stuff we do here. If you go to the Lathemaster website (www.lathemaster.com) and look at their 8x14 lathe (which is the same identical machine as the HF 8x12) you will probably get more on the specs.

The sale has been going on for several weeks, and the employees have no clue. Send forum member deebee a PM and ask for details - he just bought it.



I didn't see either on the website, could you put up a link?

Will a 7x or 8x lathe be big enough for doing things like making a Maglite heatsink, or boring out a surefire, or making a 18650 size Ti light?

Do a search on threads started by "wquiles" in the Homemade subforum - except for the last 2 months, everything was made with either a 7x of the HF8x12 lathe. Heatsinks, boring out, all OK. Titanium? I never tried, but you should be able to with the right tooling.


I have never seen a lathe larger than 7" x 10" in any of the 3 local HF stores here. Except that they have a book with other machinery that they can get/order for you.


Will, What is the through spindle bore size on the 8" x 14" ?

MT3 I think, this is slightly under an inch at the smallest point. The Lathemaster web site should have more technical information.


I'm leaning toward 9x14, it's only a couple hundred dollars more and seems a bit more like a real lathe.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45861

I saw that in person, and I can tell you that the 8x12 is a much better in many areas - the 8x12 is really a little bit overbuilt for its size 😉

That being said, if you have the extra money, the 9x30 (see the Lathemaster web site) would be a more ideal smaller lathe 😉

Will
 
I saw that in person, and I can tell you that the 8x12 is a much better in many areas - the 8x12 is really a little bit overbuilt for its size 😉

That being said, if you have the extra money, the 9x30 (see the Lathemaster web site) would be a more ideal smaller lathe 😉

In what areas is the 8x12 better? Maybe I'll go with the 8x12.
 
Another question for you...

How similar are the HF lathes to the lathemaster lathes? Is there a significant difference in quality?
 
I just spotted this thread. It was me that posted the info that the HF8x12(14) is on sale for $449 until Feb 23rd.

This seems to be something of a state secret!! It is not available on-line for that price:- it is an "In store special" except they don't keep it in the stores!
You have to go to a HF store have them order the lathe, item 44859-9VGA, pay for it and they will order it in! The staff at the stores are not aware if this until they look the model number up in their catalog.

There is a very good review of this lathe here:
http://www.annisquamgranite.com/8x12ReviewPg1.htm

You can ignore the warning in blue at the beginning-it has turned out to be a false alarm. I have spent days and days researching small lathes and can find nothing negative about these lathes-from those who have used them!
 
I just spotted this thread. It was me that posted the info that the HF8x12(14) is on sale for $449 until Feb 23rd.

This seems to be something of a state secret!! It is not available on-line for that price:- it is an "In store special" except they don't keep it in the stores!
You have to go to a HF store have them order the lathe, item 44859-9VGA, pay for it and they will order it in! The staff at the stores are not aware if this until they look the model number up in their catalog.

So at what point is the discount applied?

Edit: I just called HF, they knew nothing of the sale like you said, but quoted me $549, which is $50 less than the price advertised on the website.
 
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I called the local HF, and the person who answered was so cranky, I decided to call back later and hope that there was someone there with a better personality.
 
In what areas is the 8x12 better? Maybe I'll go with the 8x12.

- The distance between the rails is wider in the 8x
- The carriage is wider in the 8x
- The cross slide is wider in the 8x
etc.

That 9x machine is still a "light" machine like the 7x series, just a tad larger. The 8x (and the 9x30 from Lathemaster) are in a different class/size.

If doing it all over again, I would still pick the 8x over the 7x/9x, and if I had the extra money I would get the 9x30.

Will
 
- The distance between the rails is wider in the 8x
- The carriage is wider in the 8x
- The cross slide is wider in the 8x
etc.

That 9x machine is still a "light" machine like the 7x series, just a tad larger. The 8x (and the 9x30 from Lathemaster) are in a different class/size.

If doing it all over again, I would still pick the 8x over the 7x/9x, and if I had the extra money I would get the 9x30.

Will

Thanks for the tip Will. 8x12 is ordered and should be on my bench by Monday.
 
So at what point is the discount applied?

Edit: I just called HF, they knew nothing of the sale like you said, but quoted me $549, which is $50 less than the price advertised on the website.

Well, they quoted me $649 initially so things are improving!!

I phoned the head office in California and confirmed the $449 price (last week). Then I called the nearest store to me and gave them the item number 44859-9VGA and told them it was on sale and would they look it up please. They did so but insisted that I drive to the store-100 miles-pay for the machine ($449) which they would then order, and then return in 10 days to pick up my machine-400 miles of driving! I asked to speak to the manager and explained the situation to him. he said "No problem" and ordered the machine without my having to pay in advance. So now i have to drive to the store to pick it up and pay $449 but I will use the opportunity to buy some more tools :twothumbs

Perhaps this is the occasion to describe what I have been able to find out about the Lathemaster/Harbor Frite 8x14:
(I am presently unemployed so have lots of time to spend on the computer!)

Most Chinese lathes are made by the Siege factory in Shangzou (Sp?)
Siege distribute this particular lathe but they do not manufacture it. It seems the original people to contract for the manufacture of the 8x14 lathe were Lathemaster-round about the year 2000. The factory that makes them is something of a mystery but of the possible sources that I have seen they are ISO9001 certified-which is good!
So we have a lathe being manufactured and only one distributer in N.America-There must have been considerable excess capacity so, and this is conjecture on my part Harbor Freight contracted to take on the excess but signed a "No Compete" clause that protected Lathemaster. Hence the ridiculously inaccurate description in the HF catalog, Then the change a year ago that made the description even more inaccurate (The lathe still has "Dual prismatic beds" according to people who have taken delivery of the lathe in the last couple of weeks-Feb 2009). The serial numbers of the Lathemaster and the Harbor Frieght versions are intermixed!
Neither HF nor Lathemaster will respond to enquires about the above I have been assured.

If you perform the modification to variable speed DC power as described by Will Quiles, and if you are as patient as he was and get the parts for about $120 you will have a machine that is comparible to the Siege C4 which sells for $1600 but you will have paid $449+$120 which is a chunk of saving:thumbsup:
 
I'll probably get the 8x12, if I can get it for the $449. Now I just need a place to put it 😀

I do have one semi-ideal location, a workshop about 5 miles from where I live, but I don't feel like driving that much. That leaves me with the basement (cinder block walls, fiberglass ceiling panels, and no outlets) or the garage (dusty, cold, and no outlets, roof leaks in heavy rain, but little chance of a fire).
Running outlets is no problem, but I'm a little worried about starting a fire in the basement, or getting the lathe caked full of dust and dirt in the garage.

Which would be the better location of the two to locate my lathe?
 
I'll probably get the 8x12, if I can get it for the $449. Now I just need a place to put it 😀

I do have one semi-ideal location, a workshop about 5 miles from where I live, but I don't feel like driving that much. That leaves me with the basement (cinder block walls, fiberglass ceiling panels, and no outlets) or the garage (dusty, cold, and no outlets, roof leaks in heavy rain, but little chance of a fire).
Running outlets is no problem, but I'm a little worried about starting a fire in the basement, or getting the lathe caked full of dust and dirt in the garage.

Which would be the better location of the two to locate my lathe?

Basement would be better assuming you can get power down there and it's not too moist. You might want to consider a dehumidifier.
 
The only thing I'm really worried about in the basement is starting a fire, primarily the ceiling tiles. The walls and floor are all concrete, but I'm worried about setting the ceiling tiles on fire with the chips.

What could I do to help prevent something like that from happening?
 
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