Looking for EDC

larryinpa

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Hi All, It's been a while since I've been on this forum. Looking for a new EDC. I currently have a Fenix L1T that has been great, but I'm looking for another that's more powerful, more features, etc. Yes, bigger and badder 🙂.

1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?


____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.

__X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! 🙂

____Less than $25.
____Less than $50.
__X__Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

_X___I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
__X__Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____N/A

RATHER HAVE NOT SOMETHING LARGER THAN 5 1/2"

5) Emitter/Light source:

__X__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

__X__I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

____I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
__X__I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
____I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
____I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
_X___I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
__X__150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
__X__30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
__X__90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
__X__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
__X__Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

__X__I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
__X__I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
__X__I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
__X__I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
_X___I want a selector ring.
_X___I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
___X_Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
_X___Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
__X__Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

I've been looking at EagleTAC T20C/P20C, Sunwayman M20C and some Fenix, but their website has me a bit confused.

What have ya got?

Thanks!
 
JETBeam RRT-0 XM-L should get fairly close to your requirements above ....

A couple of points, however - throw will generally be somewhat limited in a small EDC-sized light (unless you choose a light with aspheric optics); and for the lumens you want, you will probably need to run on Li-Ion (instead of lithium primaries).
 
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JETBeam RRT-0 XM-L should get fairly close to your requirements above ....

A couple of points, however - throw will generally be somewhat limited in a small EDC-sized light (unless you choose a light with aspheric optics); and for the lumens you want, you will probably need to run on Li-Ion (instead of lithium primaries).

This is one sick little light. A little over my price range, especially when adding a strike bezel. I'll have to look at pricing on other sites. Thanks for the recommendation!
 
What effect does going Li-ion power source on output?

The energy density of the lithium ion cells is greatly improved...they provide more volts and run time for example. If the light is wired to take advantage of them, they can be a lot brighter, and run a lot longer, etc.

The rechargeables also save money in the long run for EDC's, because while being expensive to initially purchase, they do NOT need to be replaced every time the light is drained the way primaries are.

So, instead of buying primaries over and over again...you buy a set of rechargeables and a charger, and a DMM if you don't have one...and you're done.

If you standardize your equipment, you can get a TON of lights that use the popular 18650 sized cells...and especially if your lights use ONE CELL, you can use the same set of cells interchangeably.

If you get into multiple cells lights, its better to dedicate the cells to that light...as part of that amazing energy density is the amount of current that can flow between two UNEVENLY MATCHED cells. So if one cell is older, and one is newer, the DIFFERENCE between them in internal resistance, etc, can create heat, which can be a bad thing.

You can get protected cells to reduce the risks of course, and that's the only type I use.

The benefit for me at least is a LOT better light for any given situation, for a lot longer, for less money.

😀
 
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What effect does going Li-ion power source on output?

It depends. In some lights Li-ion batteries boosts the output a little (which in many cases is not noticeable.) But, in some lights the difference is huge (such as single AA lights which are designed to use a Li-ion.) The reason for the boost is higher voltage in the Li-ion battery compared to the primary battery/ies. A Li-ion nominal voltage is 3.7v; where as, a CR123 primary battery is 3.0v. An alkaline AA battery is only 1.5v, and has a lot of resistance under heavy load.

In the Fenix PD32 the difference in output using 2 CR123's versus using one 18650 Li-ion is not noticeable. In this scenario though using one 3.7v 18650 actually has fewer volts than using two 3.0v CR123's. But, again you can't tell the difference in output if there even is a difference. The 18650 battery has more capacity & runs longer though (especially on the higher output modes) than two CR123's. Plus the Li-ion batteries are all rechargeable which allows for guilt-free lumens.

My favorite mid-sized thrower is either the Olight M20X or the Olight M21X. Both lights are a little too large IMO for edc unless you plan to carry your light on your belt. The M21X is slightly larger with slightly better throw & overall output, but it is hardly noticeable compared to the smaller M20X. So, for edc I'd go with the M20X. Check out the video reviews for these over at goinggear's website. Just google them.
 
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