LumaPower/LumaHunter M1-R
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Interesting - saw the exact same thing on my cheapie DX MTE R100 light (although it was a fairly violent pinkish/purplish shift as soon as you went out of hi mode).
But my Fenix R100 shows absolutely no tint variation at all, at any level. It stays a nice warm tint throughout.
Bizarre ...
But my Fenix R100 shows absolutely no tint variation at all, at any level. It stays a nice warm tint throughout.
Bizarre ...
x2x3x2, anyway you can add a battery selector to your review page? Your reviews are great and initially it was easy to look through the lights to find one that used a certain batter, however, now it freaking takes all day due to the number of reviews (great work keep it up).:thumbsup:
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I thought of adding that, but as more and more lights are able to run multiple battery configurations (18650 or 16340, AA or 14500, etc...)
Do you have any suggestions on what should the default battery type to be listed under the reviews list table? (ie. primary/li-ions or 18650/16340?)
Or should I list it according to the largest accommodatable cell size of lights?
Do you have any suggestions on what should the default battery type to be listed under the reviews list table? (ie. primary/li-ions or 18650/16340?)
Or should I list it according to the largest accommodatable cell size of lights?
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woodrow
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x2x3x2.... Great review and site! My M1-R should be here tomorrow. I really like the compare feature... Thanks again for all of your hard work.
I was thinking of a drop down menu added to your review page to allow the user to select the battery size and based on that the page would be filtered to show only those lights that use that battery. For me I am specifically evaluating a single AA light, and since your data set has grown so much in the last couple of months, it would be really nice to filter only lights that use 14500, for example.
Also, a question for you, I am specifically looking at the Jetbeam C-LE V2 and noticed you will be reciveing a sample for evaluation, any idea when that will be completed? I have narrowed my choices down to a few lights, most of which you have reviewed, and really like the idea of using 14500, but would like to know your thoughts on the Jetbeam vs. the Lumapower 301 (which can take a 14500 for increased output if I recall correctly, and since I already have a charger, it looks like I might just get the 301).
I guess what I am asking, which AA light in the $30 -$50 range would YOU pick with the current choices using either a single AA or AA/14500?
Thanks,
Reisco
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Cool idea, I can try that out but might take sometime since I have to attend uni calsses n all... 
As for lights in AA form factors, I personally would choose the LumaPower LM301. I'm currently still using the original Luxeon based LM301, it's never failed me since day 1, and the simple low/high levels are perfect for my EDC purposes. The LM301 doesn't run good on 14500 cells though, you will get a boost in output, but runtime isn't that good on low.
If you are in for a good versatile AA/14500 light, I highly recommend the LiteFlux LF5 at $48 shipped. Super versatile and functionality on every level is retained when running 14500 cells. Of course, the catch is its a twisty which might not be the ideal choice for EDC, but that's down to personal preference of course.
I was told that JETBeam sent me the light on the 25th. Havent received anything as yet though. Hopefully the postman will bring joy parcels by the end of this week
I guess we'll have to see if JETBeam has a new, better performing circuit powering the C-LE V.2...
As for lights in AA form factors, I personally would choose the LumaPower LM301. I'm currently still using the original Luxeon based LM301, it's never failed me since day 1, and the simple low/high levels are perfect for my EDC purposes. The LM301 doesn't run good on 14500 cells though, you will get a boost in output, but runtime isn't that good on low.
If you are in for a good versatile AA/14500 light, I highly recommend the LiteFlux LF5 at $48 shipped. Super versatile and functionality on every level is retained when running 14500 cells. Of course, the catch is its a twisty which might not be the ideal choice for EDC, but that's down to personal preference of course.
I was told that JETBeam sent me the light on the 25th. Havent received anything as yet though. Hopefully the postman will bring joy parcels by the end of this week
I guess we'll have to see if JETBeam has a new, better performing circuit powering the C-LE V.2...
woodrow
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x2x3x2, Does your review site take donations...if so, could you post a link... I would like to donate next week when I get paid. Also, are you planning to post runtimes with cr123a primaries? I was not as impressed with the light as I really wanted to be running on a 18650, but I really like its output on 123a's.
Again, thanks for the great review and all your hard work.
Again, thanks for the great review and all your hard work.
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Hiya woodrow,
I tried to apply for a PayPal donate button on my site before, since its a non-profit site. Following that my PayPal account was on hold for some reason even though i already had a "premium" account or something like that, which is required according to PayPal. Oh well, I just decided not to add it in the end
Regarding runtimes on primary CR23's, I don't think I'll be doing one for this one, primarily cos I don't have any left CR123 are even more expensive here in Singapore, I'll save some coin n buy a bulk of them online hopefully pretty soon
I tried to apply for a PayPal donate button on my site before, since its a non-profit site. Following that my PayPal account was on hold for some reason even though i already had a "premium" account or something like that, which is required according to PayPal. Oh well, I just decided not to add it in the end
Regarding runtimes on primary CR23's, I don't think I'll be doing one for this one, primarily cos I don't have any left
CR123 are even more expensive here in Singapore, I'll save some coin n buy a bulk of them online hopefully pretty soon Hiya Reisco,
I took a quick try at adding the sort by battery menu.
Please check it out, hope that's kinda what you were thinking of
Exactly what I had envisioned, awesome.
woodrow
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x2x3x2. you said you were using AW 16340 batteries in your review. Is that the same is a regular RCR123a 3.7v, or is it wider? Does anyone make a 18650 width battery that is only as long as a cr123a?
So in lights with wide battery tubes like the M1, you could have 7 volts, but better runtimes than a rcr123a will give you? Thanks for your help.
So in lights with wide battery tubes like the M1, you could have 7 volts, but better runtimes than a rcr123a will give you? Thanks for your help.
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Double post...sorry
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Hiya woodrow,
I'm not sure what are the regular RCR123 3.7V cells you use, but the AW 16340 cells are not the wider variety. Same diamter as lithium CR123 primaries.
Regarding a cell with the width of a 18650 and length of 16340, guess that would make it a 18340 cell. Not sure if anyone manufactures that size of cell though...
Btw, just received the C-LE V2 this morning. In process of doing runtimes now
Initial impressions:
- Nice package, but still has typos on it such as "levers" instead of "levels".
- Mismatched HA 3 coating. Head is dark gray/black color similar to the C-LE V1.2, batery tube and tailcap are dark brown.
- Circuit seems identical to V1.2, no beacon mode. (I actually like the beacon mode and used it quite often.)
- Slightly longer due to push button switch.
- Push button has short travel, similar to the Fenix ones.
- 2 rubber o-rings at the tail end fit very snug and tight, almost like the RexLight.
- Nice looking warranty card, made of hard plastic like credit cards.
I'm not sure what are the regular RCR123 3.7V cells you use, but the AW 16340 cells are not the wider variety. Same diamter as lithium CR123 primaries.
Regarding a cell with the width of a 18650 and length of 16340, guess that would make it a 18340 cell. Not sure if anyone manufactures that size of cell though...
Btw, just received the C-LE V2 this morning. In process of doing runtimes now
Initial impressions:
- Nice package, but still has typos on it such as "levers" instead of "levels".
- Mismatched HA 3 coating. Head is dark gray/black color similar to the C-LE V1.2, batery tube and tailcap are dark brown.
- Circuit seems identical to V1.2, no beacon mode. (I actually like the beacon mode and used it quite often.)
- Slightly longer due to push button switch.
- Push button has short travel, similar to the Fenix ones.
- 2 rubber o-rings at the tail end fit very snug and tight, almost like the RexLight.
- Nice looking warranty card, made of hard plastic like credit cards.
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WadeF
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Surprised to see such a difference in LUX between the M1-R and the Dereelight CL1H 2.0, on high with smooth reflectors. Do you think this is because the Rebel is smaller and creates a smaller and more intense hot spot than the Dereelight? Have you compared them in a real world throw test?
I have both M1-R OP and Dereelight CL1H 2.0 OP , tested them in real world , made lux readings as well, both behave very similar, both shows app 4500lux/1m. only diffirence between them is beam colors, M1 goes to yelowish side while CL1H is a tad greenish.
left CL1H, right M1R, EV-1
left CL1H, right M1R, EV-1
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woodrow
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After using this light for a few days, I have a few observations. First and foremost, to like this light, you must be willing to accept some compromises. These include:
1. The smooth (best throwing) reflector is not the prettiest, to have the best beam you have to use the OP reflector. Until a new reflector is designed, this will never be the greatext throw light. The OP does throw much better than My Fenix P3D, but it is not a MRV, or D-mini with the smooth reflector. It does have very decent throw...out to 80 or so yards.
2. You can either have very good brightness or long runtime, but not really both. Like x2x3x2's review shows, The light is pretty bright with RCR123a's, but it does not run for long on them. The 18650 will give you great runtimes, but dimming and not as bright. You do get a nice low mode with the 18650 that you do not get with 2 RCR123's, where low is about as bright as high. CR123a's give you good brightness and a decent low mode if you do not need to use rechargeables. Keep in mind that even with the 18650 in it is is still brighter than a SF 6p with the P61 bulb.
3. There is some color shifting between low and high mode. My light is like all those I have seen in the reviews so far. It has a somewhat warm white tint on low, but a cool white with some purple in it on high. That is sad to me, because my first rebel light and the reason I bought this one...my Fenix P3D, keeps its nice warm white tint throughout its power ranges. This light unfortunately does not.
All the above being said, The M1-R is a well made light that provides 2 modes of brightness, very decent throw...very decent (or good) brightness, and will work with three different battery types. I believe as long as you do not expect too much from it, you will be greatly happy with it. I believe it is the Honda Accord of lights. It will always deliver what you reasonably expect it to do. Just do not expect it to be a mini MRV with a perfect white tint like I did when I bought mine.
Edit, as I often do, I expect a light (especially one from LP) to be perfect when I get it. I was disappointed with the M1-R when I got it, and sold it in the b/s/t section. I realized later thinking about it...and no longer having it, that it really was a nice-not too big-not too small light. It would throw well out to 80 yards or so, and it did not give me the "watch the small dancing spot" experience that my beloved SurvivorLED does when walking with it. Its beam kind of reminded me of a led version of my old SF 9AN...which was a very good light.
Because of this...I just ordered another one.
1. The smooth (best throwing) reflector is not the prettiest, to have the best beam you have to use the OP reflector. Until a new reflector is designed, this will never be the greatext throw light. The OP does throw much better than My Fenix P3D, but it is not a MRV, or D-mini with the smooth reflector. It does have very decent throw...out to 80 or so yards.
2. You can either have very good brightness or long runtime, but not really both. Like x2x3x2's review shows, The light is pretty bright with RCR123a's, but it does not run for long on them. The 18650 will give you great runtimes, but dimming and not as bright. You do get a nice low mode with the 18650 that you do not get with 2 RCR123's, where low is about as bright as high. CR123a's give you good brightness and a decent low mode if you do not need to use rechargeables. Keep in mind that even with the 18650 in it is is still brighter than a SF 6p with the P61 bulb.
3. There is some color shifting between low and high mode. My light is like all those I have seen in the reviews so far. It has a somewhat warm white tint on low, but a cool white with some purple in it on high. That is sad to me, because my first rebel light and the reason I bought this one...my Fenix P3D, keeps its nice warm white tint throughout its power ranges. This light unfortunately does not.
All the above being said, The M1-R is a well made light that provides 2 modes of brightness, very decent throw...very decent (or good) brightness, and will work with three different battery types. I believe as long as you do not expect too much from it, you will be greatly happy with it. I believe it is the Honda Accord of lights. It will always deliver what you reasonably expect it to do. Just do not expect it to be a mini MRV with a perfect white tint like I did when I bought mine.
Edit, as I often do, I expect a light (especially one from LP) to be perfect when I get it. I was disappointed with the M1-R when I got it, and sold it in the b/s/t section. I realized later thinking about it...and no longer having it, that it really was a nice-not too big-not too small light. It would throw well out to 80 yards or so, and it did not give me the "watch the small dancing spot" experience that my beloved SurvivorLED does when walking with it. Its beam kind of reminded me of a led version of my old SF 9AN...which was a very good light.
Because of this...I just ordered another one.
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Hey Woodrow-
Interesting review and actually i got a giggle at the end. Just received your M1-R today and I love this light. Lights are like wine and i'm still kinda stuck on chardonnay, but i like what i like....and your M1-R found a good home. Thanks...... and cheers!
Interesting review and actually i got a giggle at the end. Just received your M1-R today and I love this light. Lights are like wine and i'm still kinda stuck on chardonnay, but i like what i like....and your M1-R found a good home. Thanks...... and cheers!
