M4 and such

[Abrams.357]

I need a powerful incandecent that is 123 litium and 4 cells; must be under $220. I'm thinking M4 or Night ops Legacy X12. Any and all sugestions appereciated. :huh:

 

[SCblur]

well the M4 retails for $330, so you might have to look around for a while, here on B/S/T perhaps, before you find one for under $220.

 

[Abrams.357]

well the M4 retails for $330, so you might have to look around for a while, here on B/S/T perhaps, before you find one for under $220.

i found one on ebay for 220 --- what is B/S/T?

 

[Size15's]

Welcome to CPF!

What do you need the 'powerful incandescent' for, and why does it have to be four-SF123A based?

Al

 

[LED61]

I would look into the wolfeyes rattlesnake, along with a lumens factory extreme output lamp. You can run it rechargeable too.

 

[Abrams.357]

What do you need the 'powerful incandescent' for, and why does it have to be four-SF123A based?

Al

-i need it for my car and general night field applications etc
-I said that because that combo seems to be the most convinent and powerful--if theres a mod for my 4D mag that'll put out lots of lumens i guess that would be ok too, or any other light.

 

[tussery]

I belive there is a way to do a ROP Mod on a 4D Mag light. You should look at the ROP FAQ thread.

Edit: Link to the ROP mod on a 4D Mag http://lights.lightrefineries.org/?page_id=9
The ROP low and hi bulbs are very close in comparison of the MN20 and MN21 used in the M6 the ROP may have a smidgen more output.

 

[Abrams.357]

-Im also looking at the cabelas XPG X-TREME LI Flashlight: link
-does anyone know the runtime to this
-any probelms or good comments about this light

 

[SCblur]

i found one on ebay for 220 --- what is B/S/T?

Oh...foot in mouth..........

B/S/T is the Buy/Sell/Trade Forums here on CPF.

 

[mdocod]

The cabellas light is an overpriced rebadge of the G&P scorpion which has an iffy reliability situation.... the rest of the XPG series lights are also just overpriced G&P products.

4 cell lithium lights are very appealing for their powerful output, but after you feed it batteries a few times, it will seem a lot less practical, costing about $6/hour to operate in cells alone. A rechargable lithium-Ion based setup involving either a 9V or 13V lamp and 2 or 3 lithium ion cells is much more practical if you plan on using the light on a regular basis. The initial cost of cells and charger is around $50-100 depending on what you go with. So charging about 10 times will have paid for itself compared to the cost of "refueling" with primary cells.


If you are happy with the shape of your 4D, and don't need to step down to "tactical size" you could also just go with something simple like a magcharger, which is way brighter than your 4D and rechargable.

 

[Abrams.357]

The cabellas light is an overpriced rebadge of the G&P scorpion which has an iffy reliability situation.... the rest of the XPG series lights are also just overpriced G&P products.

So is the Blackhawk Legacy x12 an overprice verison of this made by G&P?

 

[defusion]

For a car light, i dont see why you need such a 4xCR123 light.
You have plenty of space, so a maglite would do.
A very simple mod, if you do want lithiums for their low self-discharge rate would be a 2C maglite with 3x lithium batteries, and a 5/6 (don't know best match) cell bulb.

But actually, i think that you would be just as happy with a cheaper 2cell light, like the surefire G2. If you expect you will use it heavily, i would suggest at least a rechargeable light. wolf-eyes makes some nice models, with plenty of output.

A mod for you 4D would be a ROP, with:

4D - with six NiMH Sub-C batteries. This is the original ROP with a soldered stick of six Sub-Cs with paper wrapped around it to prevent the batteries from rattling around

source: http://lights.lightrefineries.org/?page_id=9

 

[mdocod]

the legacy definitely looks like a G&P X12 at about a 300% markup. For that price range ($240) you could build a very nice SF/leef lego light that would be more flexible, more compatible, have more bulb/battery options, and have more future support and part availability.

 

[cfromc]

How about this:

Leef C:C body 2x18650 or 4x123 = $70
SF C head = ~$30 or G&P head ~$15
9V or 12V lamp = $15-$27
Tailcap G&P = $12-$15 or SF $25+
Total light = $115-$150+ depending on options

Still need to buy batteries. Either can use 123s or buy 2x18650 and a recharger. Use the 4x123s + 12V or use 2x18650 + 9V. This is similar to what I am putting together. I will primarily be using the 9V rechargable set-up but will always have the option to run a 12V lamp and 4 123s. Lighthound has all of this stuff.

Or do an ROP magmod for about the same price.

 

[Mikeg23]

I will primarily be using the 9V rechargable set-up but will always have the option to run a 12V lamp and 4 123s. Lighthound has all of this stuff.

Wouldn't it make more sense to use a 2X18500 body with a bored out extender? Then you could run your 9V lamp with 2X18650s and still have the option of removing the extender and sticking in 3 cr123s.

 

[FILIPPO]

I think that if you use your light in car you can choose the 4D ROP becouse it is definitely cheaper.....

 

[jumpstat]

Go for the M4 @$220 in eBay, very good price for a Surefire..

 

[william lafferty]

I just got a Lumapower MRV. It takes two 123 batteries and is just a little bigger than a SF 6P. To me, it is the perfect car light. It lights up anything very well at 100 yards, and has less bright applications probably out to 150-200 yards. It throws farther than any other light I have, including a C Cell Maglite fitted with four Seouls. It costs just a little over $100 and is easily stored in a glove box or door pocket of a car. It is a strong, well-built light that costs relatively little and has exellent throw, and I notice that when I use a light from a car, throw is what I am looking for. As a general purpose light, it is probably not the best because a narrow beam is not really user friendly up close. But as a car light, it's really good.

bill lafferty

 

[DrifT3R]

ultrafire wf-500?

I guarantee youu wont be disappointed for the price.

 

[cfromc]

Wouldn't it make more sense to use a 2X18500 body with a bored out extender? Then you could run your 9V lamp with 2X18650s and still have the option of removing the extender and sticking in 3 cr123s.

Or, I could use one dummy cell, 3 123s, and the 9V lamp. I was thinking the 2x18650 because of three reasons: Its one piece (no conductivity problems), there won't be any "matching" concerns between the body and the extender (can't find any with HAIII at the present time except the detonator), and the cost (only have to buy one thing). But I do like your idea also. I wish the 18500s had more capacity, I would just do 2 18500s and could easily just pop 3 123s in. Just after I've spent the last couple of weeks deciding on the C head 2x18650 body, you throw a monkey wrench in. There are just too many options and I have analysis paralysis.:hairpull:

Plus, when I went to order the C:C body this morning, they were out (as of this morning-I check every day).