mag charger batt pack upgrade

[LIGHTSMAD]

ive done a few searchs on this one....can anyone tell me if there is a batt pack that i can use that will charge in the cradle or i have a tenergy smart charger and will give me a decent run time with a wa1160 or 5761 phillips bulb...and were to buy one...and if i will need to replace any thing else cause of the power reflector....lens...switch ect.

 

[Rossymeister]

For A higher capacity, you will need to build the pack yourself. You Need:

5 X 1/2D Nimh Cells

You Can Buy Them Here:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/0-5-d-cell.html

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These are rated at 3500 mAh, and the stock cells are rated at 2600.

Regards

Aaron

 

[metlarules]

Or you can just buy it already assembled:twothumbs
http://www.batteryjunction.com/streamlight-fb-5h1.html

 

[LuxLuthor]

For A higher capacity, you will need to build the pack yourself. You Need:

5 X 1/2D Nimh Cells

You Can Buy Them Here:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/0-5-d-cell.html

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These are rated at 3500 mAh, and the stock cells are rated at 2600.

Regards

Aaron

Don't use those cells for those bulbs, and the pre-made pack from batteryjunction is likely the same. For 5761 or 1160 you need higher current output cells. Specifically, those bulbs need over 5 Amps & 4 Amps output, respectively, and the cells only put out 3.5 Amps.

It is a good rule of thumb that output ratings of batteries are more optimistic than reality, so I would even doubt their 3.5 Amps output claim until tested independently. You can find my tests of current used by both bulbs in "Destructive" testing link in my sig.

This is one of a number of reasons that I never got into the Mag Charger platform. Nothing on it fits other Maglite products or vice versa....except maybe the tailcap spring.

 

[Beer]

I have never seen what the tail cap on a mag charger looks like but if you can recess the spring into the tail like a standard mag you may be able to squeeze a stick of five ELITE 5000mah Sub C's into it. They are slightly longer at 1.7 inches each vs. 1.4 for the 1/2 D's. You would need to gain about 1.5 inches.

http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/?sid=1208995&pgid=loosecells&chem=NIMH

At the bottom of the page.

Just from my own experience with the 4600mah cells (the 5000mah were not availble at the time) in my ROP HO. I don't think these will have any issue what so ever supplying the needed current.

 

[gswitter]

Anyone tried these?

 

[TexLite]

I would go more along the lines of this:
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=121207

You may also find this thread interesting:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=202350

Thanks,
Michael

 

[metlarules]

I forgot he wanted to use those bulbs. The stock nicad pack works with the 5761. Mine hasn't went belly up yet.

 

[fivemega]

This is another option.
6S/2P battery holder
12 AA size 2500mAh NiMH batteries
7.2 volt, 5000mAh
Quad bored body
WA1111

 

[LIGHTSMAD]

thanks for the useful tips!!! the upgrade by five mega ....can that be done if i send you my mc, to bore out tube and supply the required parts, 6s/2p, 12aa 2500ma batts, 4 bore tube ect )

 

[PhantomPhoton]

Hey that's a sweet setup 5mega. Too bad quad boring is such a pita to get done.

For the record, I'm running a Magcharger w/ extenders (I may have to buy more form 5mega, wish he'd make standard sized C and D extenders too) with a WA 1164 and 8 of those batteryjunction 1/D's. They seem to be doing fine with the current so far. I may try a mag85 build with them soon and see how much current they really can deliver.
A 5761 doesn't fit into my magcharger reflector by the way.

 

[bser]

that battery pack by 5 mega looks nice but will the stock charger still charge 12 cells?

 

[PhantomPhoton]

No, the stock charger will ONLY charge 5 cells properly.

Pretty much if you want to do a simple magcharger upgrade so that it retains the stock charging ability then you can do this:
Grab the NiMh pack from Battery Junction for a bit better capacity
Get a WA 1111 bulb for a bit more lumens (there might be a better option here, I don't remember all the WA bulbs)
And Get a FiveMega ceramic magcharger socket to be sure you don't melt the original magcharger plastic.

But honestly I don't think the increase in brightness from just this is worth the money.

 

[CLHC]

Just curious here. . .Will those battery cells from BatteryJunction work fine in like say, the MC.60 setup?

 

[LuxLuthor]

Just curious here. . .Will those battery cells from BatteryJunction work fine in like say, the MC.60 setup?

CLHC, you always should check the current required for a given bulb, and then see how a particular battery performs at that discharge rate. If you click the destructive testing in my sig, then find the 1160 bulb, you can see the Amps it requires.

The short answer is "no," but it is useful to learn how to determine...then you always know. I have not tested every single bulb, but quite a few that people want to use. Also, Silverfox has another separate thread in the battery section (see "pinned topics") where he tested many battery performances vs. manufacturer claims.

 

[CLHC]

LuxLuthor Thanks! Got to do more "digging!"

 

[TexLite]

No, the stock charger will ONLY charge 5 cells properly.

Are you sure about this?

Fivemega,along with others,say the stock charger will charge 4-6 cells properly.They have been using said configuration with no adverse effects.

Michael

 

[ZeissOEM2]

that battery pack by 5 mega looks nice but will the stock charger still charge 12 cells?

Second choise will be to modify the charger like I have done with my FM MC