MAG1164-HD 1000 Lumens Regulated Incan

missionaryman

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Inspired by Fivemega's first tamperings with this bulb (the WA-1164) I felt I had to build one of my own, but because of how much stress 9.6v was putting on a 6v bulb I wanted it regulated, so I decided to use a Hotdriver.

Hence the name I decided on is the MAG1164-HD

The initial plan was 8 x high drain NIMH AA's, MODAMAG carrier in a bored out 2D fitted with a Hotdriver set to 9.5v, stippled reflector, KIU, Borofloat lens and a spare 1164 in the tailcap.
But here's what went wrong:

Problem 1: CBP1650's too low capacity and a tendency to leak
Solution 1: Titanium Powermax 1800

Problem 2: Fitted Hotdriver per instructions but no go
Solution 2: Solder bulb (+) to relevant section of HD with small wire

Problem 3: 1164 went black & blue after 3 runs then broke in half
Solution 3: No solution, too hard to ship another to Australia, too bad no spare

Problem 4: Only 8.9v at the bulb pins and 11 mins to regulated shut down
Solution 4: Every resistance reducing mod known & Deoxit/Pro Gold everywhere

Problem 5: Solution 4 only got an extra 0.15v to the bulb
Solution 5: An 1800mah NIMH 4/5 Sub C fit right in where the spring once was

The result - 9.47v at the bulb pins for 1000 torch lumens & 17mins fully regulated run time = SUCCESS AT LAST!

This is my brightest MAG mod to date, brighter than any MAG85, ROP or even the 5761 2C I just built, the light is pure white, beam is very nice thanks to Litho's #6 MS reflector.

Mirage_Man bored the inside to fit the cells in a quad stack and he also did the brilliant grooving on the handle and supplied the copper 2D & batteries- thanks mate, you were a huge help getting me the things I can't get in Australia

Litho123 supplied the 1164's and the reflector & lens, thanks Litho

KIU supplied the bulb socket, thanks KIU

Andrewwynn supplied the Hotdrive, promptly and with all emails answered, thanks Andrew & Leith

So here are some pics with beamshots comparing to a ROP-H and a 5761 running on AW's new LiIon C's with 7.12v measured at the bulb:

ROP 2C LE---------------------------------5761 2C LE---------------------------------1164-HD
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Hi missionaryman!
guys, I have seen this mod and it is BRIGHT!
It was the best hotwire I've ever handled- nice balance, beautifully detailed mirageman body and a flawless beam.
Regulated incans- gotta love 'em! I have mostly LEDs but for searching in the bush or other roles where colour rendition is important this thing slayed my torches.
Thanks for showins us mm!
 
I built this torch a while ago (here), with a tri-bored 2D which lets you run GP2000s. They hardly know the light's on so no leakage, and nearly 30 minutes runtime.

If you get a resistor to plug into the bulb holder (serach "tester bob" for the value... I've forgotten since I bought it!) it's easy to set the voltages as supplied when there's a load across the holder, but without being blinded by a bare bulb.

This light gets even better with a FM3H head on it
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The FM deep 2" gave me big problems with exploding bulbs (tho it was nice until they popped). I think it was a problem with the reflector touching the bulb, possibly made worse by the stack height of the hotdriver, but before I really pinned it down the 3" heads came out and the larger hole = no problem :) So the 2"deep is waiting for my next mag85 build.
 
thanks for the nice comments guys, appreciate the feedback.
The Hotdriver is set to 9.5v, I know it can be pushed to 9.6v for an extra 50 or so lumens but I thought I'd swap that for an extra 10% bulb life.
I did try the FM 2" deep reflector and you're right the beam is very nice but with this many lumens it gets impractical, too much light in the hotspot to look at unless you're looking afar off.
The Carley 1940 MS reflector does a good job and if the bulb is perfectly (in the full sense of the word) centered it almost loses all the batwing & artifacts.
 
I'm soon to try a westinghouse 04424 in this light which takes her up to about 70w 0r 1500 torch lumens.
The titaniums are supposed to be rated at up to 18a so they should handle the 7 amps ok but will the Hotdriver handle 70 watts?
 
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