Mag623 Fast Newspaper Fire
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mrartillery
Enlightened
Lol, it never gets old watching a paper go up in in a blaze at the hands of a hotwire!
WadeF
Flashlight Enthusiast
Nice! Any idea on the approx. lumens a set up like that puts out?
Also, anyone know if a Mag85 can start newspaper on fire?
Also, anyone know if a Mag85 can start newspaper on fire?
Justin Case
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5500 bulb lumens, regulated with a JimmyM JM-PhD-D1 regulator set to Vbulb=15.5V, soft start, low batt warning, and high temp warning. I have a variety of these regulated incan setups -- Mag623, Mag440, Mag09, Mag11.
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wquiles
Flashaholic
Nice work on the Mag :twothumbs
KiwiMark
Flashlight Enthusiast
Generally a butane lighter is the better option for firestarting, but at least 2 of my lights will ignite paper and maybe a 3rd (I'll have to test it at some point). My 5 x IMR 26500 Mag 4D running the 458 bulb will light paper, especially on fresh batteries. My 8 x IMR 18650 Elephant II 458 is regulated to 20.V = 212W = lighting paper very easily. My 3D running a Svetila 64430 is regulated to 10V which would make it 79W - I know it can make paper darken and produce smoke so maybe it could produce flame, it wouldn't be as easy as from the 64458 bulb flashlights though.
There is definitely a lot of heat coming of these incans - five minutes of use and the light is feeling pretty warm. I remember playing with a 623 and running the batteries from full to low - talk about a warm Maglite! Luckily aluminium makes a good heatsink!
There is definitely a lot of heat coming of these incans - five minutes of use and the light is feeling pretty warm. I remember playing with a 623 and running the batteries from full to low - talk about a warm Maglite! Luckily aluminium makes a good heatsink!
ANDREAS FERRARI
Flashlight Enthusiast
Great video king2penn!!!!:thumbsup:
I have watched it several times and have sent the link to many friends.
Here is my 2D/64430 at work......
Anyone care to put their hand in front of it.......LOL
Thanks to AlanB for the regulated drive and to AW for the batteries.:wave:
I have watched it several times and have sent the link to many friends.
Here is my 2D/64430 at work......
Anyone care to put their hand in front of it.......LOL
Thanks to AlanB for the regulated drive and to AW for the batteries.:wave:
hoongern
Enlightened
My LF IMR-9 (2xIMR18500), D26-G4 w/ WA1185 (3xIMR18500), M@g85 (3xIMR18500), and M@g09 (3xIMR26500) ALL can't light newspaper on fire =\ They'll just make it smolder (with lots of smoke) but no flames :thinking:
Maybe it's because they make newspaper here differently, or because I'm in a HUMID tropical country right now? I'll have to try again when I go back to the USA!
You do know that you have to say the magic words: "Incan Combustus" right? Also, make sure there are no mousey LED lights around.
Well powered WA1185 also can light up newspare on fire.
See post #26 here.
The secret point is "WELL OVERDRIVEN BULB"
Another factor is well (full) writen newspaper.
Darker newspaper will catch the fire faster.
ebow86
Flashlight Enthusiast
What kind of temperture can the actual lamp reach on some of these hotwires?
ANDREAS FERRARI
Flashlight Enthusiast
That's a good question eboe86.Since we all know that paper combusts at 451F than we must be exceeding that by at least a small margin.
Has anyone measured the temp of the various bulbs we use?
Has anyone measured the temp of the various bulbs we use?
hoongern
Enlightened
I think it must be the humidity, because my builds are pretty low resistance - even to the point of flashing the bulbs (1185)
But my newspaper here looks exactly like that post - it smolders and produces red embers which burn away, but no sustained flames... (I did use completely black newspaper)
That's a good question eboe86.Since we all know that paper combusts at 451F than we must be exceeding that by at least a small margin.
Has anyone measured the temp of the various bulbs we use?
Despite the common acceptance of Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, it depends on the paper composition, humidity, chemicals, amount & type of ink (some inks are more flammable, and black solid image newsprint burns much easier/faster).
Doing the Mag623 experiment on various types of clean white copy paper gives an entirely different result. I measured the temps when I did the destructive testing, but not coming out the front using the reflector.
Next time I fire up my Mag 623, I'll put the Fluke temp probe in front and see...but it won't absorb as much IR energy as black newsprint.
ANDREAS FERRARI
Flashlight Enthusiast
Back in Junior High I put plain white paper in the oven and turned it to 550F.The paper eventually burst into flames.No directed(reflector)energy-just heat.
You are of course correct.
Anyone who has tried to ignite paper with a flashlight has found black newsprint will ignite faster because it will absorb the IR energy faster and more completely.
White newsprint will reflect(and not absorb completely) IR energy.
For some strange reason this reminds me of how some countries proposed to take out enemy satellites by focusing high energy lasers at them.The simple solution was to put mirrors around the satellites and direct the energy away.
Simple but it apparently works.
ebow86
Flashlight Enthusiast
Well, what I'm actually wondering is hot the actual glass envolope of the lamp gets, not directly infront. I doubt anyone here has anyway of measuring the glass itself though.
mrartillery
Enlightened
This would be interesting to know, exactly how much heat comes out the front of one of these.
