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If the heat sinking is better its an improvement. If the led doesn't pop off when you drop the light its an improvement. If the color tint and/or brightness is better its an improvement. If the price didn't go up its an improvement. We are not going to see anything bleeding edge from Maglite. They don't do bleeding edge technology. They do reasonably inexpensive,reliable flashlights with an excellent guarantee.
 
metlarules said:
If the heat sinking is better its an improvement. If the led doesn't pop off when you drop the light its an improvement. If the color tint and/or brightness is better its an improvement. If the price didn't go up its an improvement. We are not going to see anything bleeding edge from Maglite. They don't do bleeding edge technology. They do reasonably inexpensive,reliable flashlights with an excellent guarantee.
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Well put!
 
Hi guys, here a few pictures I took of a 2D I just got from walmart. Not really an improvement in my opinion. Hope these help. I have these hosted on geocities so we'll have to see how long they stay up. Please download them and spread them if you want.
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hows the output vs lux led mag version ?

have you tried that reflector with seoul , is the beam tighter w/seoul, how much smaller is opening than stock ,is it possible to open it up a bit to fit old style pr drop ins
 
Interesting! Thanks for the pictures JamisonM.

Observations:

  • They have gone to a "C" style "bulb tower piston holder" system.
  • Retention collar is gone
  • Can only be disassembled by removing the brass cam wheel bushing
  • They have not provided a heat path to the Maglite body! (Another half measure.)
  • Reflector is indeed redesigned and deeper
So can it take regular PR base bulbs or drop in's? It looks to me like it can. Yes or no?
 
looks like an improvement to me. Much better equipment for the heat to dissipate. The mag is a beast either way in my opinion. What other flashlight can blind someone and be used in self defense the way a mag can?
 
Cydonia said:
So can it take regular PR base bulbs or drop in's? It looks to me like it can. Yes or no?
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It can, but it require a bit of doing to get it to work. Even then, the hole in the bottom of the reflector needs to be enlarged ever so slightly so it can go past the bulb retaining ring. Amazingly, the brownish plastic, removable cam shaft from a C maglite slides right in the cam shaft of this D maglite. I think a longer hex screw should be found, but the original works fine so long as you don’t tighten it too much. Also, the older reflectors that have had their cam cut off will also work with now problem. Since these reflectors have a larger hole for the bulb, they don’t need to be widened. They also screw all the way down and give you a focused beam and a floody beam. Here's a picture.

Big_Ed said:
Maybe this was already asked and answered, but what about runtime of this new version? Is it better than the Lux III?
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I have no idea, but check the runtime graph from flashlight reviews.com to see the runtime of the older luxeon III maglites. That should give you an idea of what you'll see out of these.

qip said:
hows the output vs lux led mag version ?

have you tried that reflector with seoul , is the beam tighter w/seoul, how much smaller is opening than stock ,is it possible to open it up a bit to fit old style pr drop ins
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I don't have a 2D magled to compare it too, but I have replaced the older reflector in my 4D maglite with one of Gene's drop-ins in it. The only problem I encountered is that the cam shaft gets in the way. Gene's drop-in just doesn't go deep enough into the battery tube because of this. So, I replaced the old switch with a cut down switch minus the came shaft and it works like a charm. Gene's drop-in goes almost right to the switch and this gives plenty of room for the reflector. The head screws on to the battery tube and even goes past the o-ring. As far as how well it throws, I'll say it does out throw the old reflector, but not by a great margin.
 
gfang said:
I have been to Mag Instrument in Ontario California many times to drop off lites for repair. Its pretty obvious once you see the place and meet some of the people there that it is little more than a sweat shop pushing out products as quickly and cheaply as possible. For those of you that think Mag is some huge company, you're right, but you would probably be in shock if you actually went there. Their manufacturing facilities are smaller and pretty run down compared to many other So Cal big businesses. It is no surprise that they don't apply the latest tech. They are about creating a large volume of reasonably dependable lights for the least cost.

Until someone turns Maglica into an LED enthusiast, don't expect anything "cutting edge" from Mag Lite.
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Have you, OR ANYONE ELSE HERE, every tried to email or call someone higher up in the company and have a discussion about it?
Ive been contemplating that, i would love to see them producing something that is good quality american made, at that decent price.
Seriously it wouldnt raise the price that much and I think that the even if there was a price rise that increased business would stand to make them more money. People might not be so ready to go buy all these chinese lights out there.
 
i just got one, it's very bright, i would guess ~100 lumens also,

i think practically it gives up nothing compared to my E2DL

http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcwang3/sf_vs_mag.jpg

E2DL on left, mag 2D on right,

sorry for crappy pic, thats off my storm,

minor downsides, you don't see it in the pic, but the beam pattern is slightly/somewhat uneven at certain focuses, i think due to minor molding marks at the center of the reflector and possibly the LED being so small and seems slightly off center.

lowes is the cheapest, it's 29.94 there.

3D and 4D still old style

nice product overall, i would recommend this light to all and any casual users and normal persons 😛
 
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eyeeatingfish said:
Have you, OR ANYONE ELSE HERE, every tried to email or call someone higher up in the company and have a discussion about it?
Ive been contemplating that, i would love to see them producing something that is good quality american made, at that decent price.
Seriously it wouldnt raise the price that much and I think that the even if there was a price rise that increased business would stand to make them more money. People might not be so ready to go buy all these chinese lights out there.
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Yeah somehow I just don't see that happening...and besides, I honestly can't see a single American company satisfying all the needs of every domestic flashaholic. It's like telling a car collector to only buy American, and quite frankly it ain't going to happen unless you strictly focus on collecting said American cars only. For an American company to invest more R&D and actually sell more up to date technology flashlights would make the product more expensive. One needs to only look a domestic company like Inova to see that. Sure they've got LED flashlights in the same price range as Maglites, but their higher end models are noticeably more expensive. If Mag did have higher end flashlights that had more up to date technology, you know they're going to be much more expensive. What they have done now is a good compromise to cater to the general public (which doesn't know any better) and also at the very least catch the interest of us flashlight enthusiasts. As a flashaholic myself, I enjoy variety as well as affordability. I love the Mags I own because I enjoy the ability to mod them. I also love the many different Chinese made flashlights I own too...it's all part of being a flashlight enthusiast as far as I'm concerned.
 
All in all if it is brighter and doesn't dim when it heats up all the while keeping the price the same I say its a winner.
 
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