Magstar or Mag LED?

angelofwar

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Need some advice. I have purchased the 3-Watt Mag LED for all 3 of my D-Cell Mag's...they're nice becasue of the extended battery life. and still maintain the throw of the krypton bulbs. I was just wondering if the Magnumstar xenon offered more throw? I know it will lessen battery life, but I like having the option of changing my flashlight to suit the situation. (I already have dozens of other lights, SF/Inova/etc., so please keep replys limitited to the Maglite). Anyhelp would be appreciated.
 
I never used mag star bulb, but the led bulb focus just like regular bulb, but brighter.
 
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Need some advice. I have purchased the 3-Watt Mag LED for all 3 of my D-Cell Mag's...they're nice becasue of the extended battery life. and still maintain the throw of the krypton bulbs. I was just wondering if the Magnumstar xenon offered more throw? I know it will lessen battery life, but I like having the option of changing my flashlight to suit the situation. (I already have dozens of other lights, SF/Inova/etc., so please keep replys limitited to the Maglite). Anyhelp would be appreciated.

Are you talking about carrying around different bulbs/LED dropins for different situations? In general, assuming the same reflector, more throw requires more light. For more light I'd get a TerraLux dropin if you want LED. If you want more incan light, I'd just make it an ROP. How easy that would be depends on what size the Mags are, of course, but if you're going to be carrying around a Mag and bulbs then a few batteries might not be that much more.

Regardless of what you do, to improve the performance of the Mags with any light source, I would buy UCL lenses for each, either a KD or FM smooth aluminum cammed reflector (unless you're really strapped for cash get the FM one, he did make the originals after all and deserves to profit from his efforts), and do the tailspring resistance fix by sanding two points on the spring, one at the top and one at the bottom, and soldering a copper wire between the two. Should reduce the 100+ mOhms of resistance in the spring down quite a bit.

The UCL lenses will increase the torch-lumens of the light without any increase in bulb lumens, and the aluminum reflectors, particularly the FM ones, should do the same because they'll be more efficient than the stock plastic ones. The spring mod will increase the voltage which reaches any bulb or LED and get just a little more brightness or runtime (depending on which one you're using) out of the same power source.

Unfortunately I can't tell you what battery solution to pursue without knowing what size mags you have. If they're 6D, just buy 3 packs of these and be done with it. They they're 2D, then both LuxLuthor and FiveMega offer good battery solutions which really come down to personal preference.
 
I'd get another sure-fire before I dropped $75 smackers on an upgrade...but those terralux's look pretty tempting...thanks gunner12
 
Okay, brain fart, xenon, not halogen. :duh2:

Guess I need to get off CPF for a while, too much flashlight stuff floating in my head.
 
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Never mind.

Back to the OT - how does the MagLED stack up on a 1:1 comparo against the MagStar Xenon?

I'm curious - I've never seen a MagLed.
 
Ictorana...The 3-Watt LED marketed for Maglite...I was thinking about getting one of the magnum star xenon for one of my 3-D's or my 4-D just to have a different light option available...and I figured the Magnum Star xenon might have a little more throw...especially in the 4-D...I figured somebody on CPF had both and would be able to give me a side-by-side comparision, and if the magnum star xenon is worth getting, or am I better off sticking with the 3-Watt LED I already have.
 
if you can accept measurements only, see this post of mine in the PR-LEd dropins thread.

But beamshots from me are hardly possible at the moment.

On a side note I am buying on the multiple maglite light sources system. I am toying with the idea of a Backup MagnumStar xenon and a TL-1F in a special case in the mags tailcap...

enjoy, kostas
 
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The White star (Krypton) to Mag-Num star (Xenon) upgrade is not really significant in a 3D Maglite. You have to get to at least four cells for a significant improvement. I upgraded a 6D from krypton to xenon and the difference was night and day.

So, a Mag-Num star upgrade is bound to prove disappointing. LED is almost certainly the way to go. Unfortunately, Maglite's own LED upgrades are disappointing at best. They use a significantly outdated emitter known as a Luxeon III. You would be better with a Terralux drop-in with SSC P4 emitter, or even better, a Malkoff device.

If however, you want to keep it as an incandescent. Look up a Mag85. Roughly 20x the output of a stock mag, and with rechargable facility too.
 
The White star (Krypton) to Mag-Num star (Xenon) upgrade is not really significant in a 3D Maglite. You have to get to at least four cells for a significant improvement. I upgraded a 6D from krypton to xenon and the difference was night and day.

So, a Mag-Num star upgrade is bound to prove disappointing. LED is almost certainly the way to go. Unfortunately, Maglite's own LED upgrades are disappointing at best. They use a significantly outdated emitter known as a Luxeon III. You would be better with a Terralux drop-in with SSC P4 emitter, or even better, a Malkoff device.

If however, you want to keep it as an incandescent. Look up a Mag85. Roughly 20x the output of a stock mag, and with rechargable facility too.

Thanks, mike-salt...I'll try the Magnum Star xenon with my 4-D and keep the LED's in my 3-D's. I might try the other upgrades sometime, but I prefer to stick with original products to keep the warranty good, and be able to replace my lights when they meet an ill-dtermined fate...I'm the same way with my surefire's.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about the Mag warranty. By the time you've paid the return postage costs, it is not worth that much anyway. The Terralux and LED upgrades are fully reversible anyway. I something goes wrong, put the stock parts back in and return.
 
Okay......newbie alert question!

Are there any issues using the TerraLUX drop in with a Magcharger? I would assume no, but then again I dont know for sure. Thanks in advance
 
Okay......newbie alert question!

Are there any issues using the TerraLUX drop in with a Magcharger? I would assume no, but then again I dont know for sure. Thanks in advance

The Magcharger uses Bi-Pin bulbs - the bulbs ARE NOT like the normal Mag bulbs so NO the drop-ins designed for normal Mags will not fit in the Magcharger.
 
I ran Magnum Star bulbs in my 3-D for a couple of years. It was a big improvement over the stock bulb. But I popped in a Mag LED drop-in not long after they came out and haven't looked back since. The only way the Magnum Star was better was the tint when the batteries were fresh. Of course, the @#%* bulb drew enough that the batteries didn't stay fresh for long, and then you were back to that sickly, weak yellow that always reminded me of the Boy Scout flashlights I had as a kid. With the LED drop-in you've got more output, the tint always stays the same, the batteries last near forever, and it has a tighter beam and throws better. I know I'm not going back.

Of course, there's always room for improvement. I'm developing a serious case of Malkoff-envy.
 
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