Make flat top button top with solder?

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Is it safe to make an AW 18650 into a button top by putting a solder blob on the contact?

If it is safe, any tips/advice would be appreciated. I have little to no soldering skills.:shakehead
 
Well from what i have read it's a no-no. But I have soldered a small blob and made battery packs with copper strips solder to the battery tops and bottoms with a soldering iron. I usually solder the battery then very quickly put a damp rag on the joint or blob of the battery. Trying to keep as much heat as possible out of the battery. You will need to clean the area where your going to solder to. You can use sand paper and slightly rough up the area. I use a 150 watt soldering iron for the job. You may get by with a 30 watt. I have never tried with anything but the 150watt. I always figured the less time I am on the piece the less heat will be absorbed into the entire piece. Clean the area, apply a little spot of flux on the area, then add the appropriate sized solder blob to the already hot iron, touch the solder iron blob to the area where you applied the flux and it should melt on to the area very quickly. Then wrap the rag around the area very quickly to avoid over heating. The damp rag should help to cool the area (battery) down before anything bad happens. If it doesn't seem to stick within a few seconds, then you may need a more powerful soldering iron. I do not think anyone is really going to tell you this is safe because it is not. And if you try this you should already know how to solder to some extent. Try at your own risk. But it can be done.
 
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Well from what i have read it's a no-no. But I have soldered a small blob and made battery packs with copper strips solder to the battery tops and bottoms with a soldering iron. I usually solder the battery then very quickly put a damp rag on the joint or blob of the battery. Trying to keep as much heat as possible out of the battery. You will need to clean the area where your going to solder to. You can use sand paper and slightly rough up the area. I use a 150 watt soldering iron for the job. You may get by with a 30 watt. I have never tried with anything but the 150watt. I always figured the less time I am on the piece the less heat will be absorbed into the entire piece. Clean the area, apply a little spot of flux on the area, then add the appropriate sized solder blob to the already hot iron, touch the solder iron blob to the area where you applied the flux and it should melt on to the area very quickly. Then wrap the rag around the area very quickly to avoid over heating. The damp rag should help to cool the area (battery) down before anything bad happens. If it doesn't seem to stick within a few seconds, then you may need a more powerful soldering iron. I do not think anyone is really going to tell you this is safe because it is not. And if you try this you should already know how to solder to some extent. Try at your own risk. But it can be done.

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Thanks for the replies. I think I can pull off what moderator007 described. It doesn't seem like that method will overheat the cell. I have rosin core solder that came with the iron. Should I use something different/better?
 
If you're looking for a non-soldering method, I have found the 1mm thick neodymium magnets (in the form of discs) useful for this purpose.

Drop one (or more depending on the height required) onto the positive metal contact of the cell, then add a thin film of superglue to the circular edge linking the magnet and the +ve contact and wait for it to dry.

Don't try to glue the flat surface of the disc to the +ve contact directly though, because the glue will act as an insulating layer.
 
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Thanks for the replies. I think I can pull off what moderator007 described. It doesn't seem like that method will overheat the cell. I have rosin core solder that came with the iron. Should I use something different/better?
You will need solder flux paste. Your solder will work with the additional flux paste. Put a little dab on the area being soldered before you start soldering. It would help if you buy some flux paste and practice a little on something else. So as you get the feel for how it acts. It will all make since once you practice. The flux helps clean the area and brings the temperature up quickly because it turns to a liquid once heated and can transfer the heat over a area faster than just the tip itself. Read here fifth paragraph down. I personally wouldn't even attempt it with out the flux paste.:)
 
You really dont have to practice on cells. You can practice on some other electronic stuff thats no good. Then maybe practice on a cell or two. Maybe I need to make myself clear. This is dangerous, things can go:poof:. The main thing that you are at risk of, is battery explosion from the heat. Thats why I try to keep the soldering time only to maybe 3 sec max and cool it down fast. If it doesn't take in less than three seconds then stop and cool the battery down and try again once cool. You need to practice. Don't solder on any battery until after you have practiced on something else. And remember this is dangerous. Be careful.
 
I have soldered blobs on top of nimh flat top cells with success but IMO the magnet route is strongly suggested as it is hard to get a decent blob of solder without heating up the area unnecessarily. After spending time doing about 16 batteries I won't try it again as it took a long time to complete and I found that building up the blob higher than needed and filing/sanding it down flat was the best method and after awhile you have to continue to sand/polish the solder as over time it does oxidize on you not making as good of contact while the nickle plated magnets shouldn't require such maintenance.
 
soldering to unprotected cell negative end (body) is not a good idea, positive end no problem, protected cells ok to solder boh sides, since you don't heat up the cell. however you need to work fast in all cases. and use25watts soldering iron,
 
If I were going to do this, I would buy some flat circular silver necklace beads on eBay, and solder the bead to the top of the battery instead of building a blob out of molten solder.

If that sounds oddly specific, it's because I did actually buy those beads for another purpose, for making electrical contacts on light-engine boards.
 
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