Make my Led Lenser P7 better?

Thanks for the help , I will put here tomorow some info I have at work about this light.

About all the work to do , is there a problem to run the led to hard for like 5mins? I only want to change the momentary mode to like 200% (I know these are stupid numbers but you understand) and the normal 100% to the current momentary mode of 130%.

How long could I use it before really damaging the led?

About the price.. its the usual thing.. when you sell it has a price.. to buy it it has another. 70€ is actually a good price , they come from dealers at 28€ now without taxes... 70 is with shipping taxes and the dealer "part" 😛 But forget this part.

Will try to test the light now.

Regards,
 
Here is a foto (thanks d1dd1) from the head and led:

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Can I connect the multimeter on the red and black cable to read the current? I see probably some parts where I can connect it...
But what Im I reading?

I have here my multimeter... (hope you dont make fun of me for being so noob in this) should I turn it to Amps? 20m ? :ohgeez:

Help! :thinking:
 
About all the work to do , is there a problem to run the led to hard for like 5mins? I only want to change the momentary mode to like 200% (I know these are stupid numbers but you understand) and the normal 100% to the current momentary mode of 130%.
It might not damage the LED if it was attached directly to the heatsink, but with that thin metal stalk there, and assuming the light already drives it at something approaching its rated power, 200% would most likely be way too much.

How long could I use it before really damaging the led?
Take current readings and we'll be able to tell you, but don't expect good news.

Can I connect the multimeter on the red and black cable to read the current?
No, that's how you read voltage. Connect black and red with the meter in current mode and you'll short everything.

You need to do the following:

1) unsolder from the LED either of the two wires while leaving the other one connected. In your place I'd unsolder the black one, because if the red one touches the body of the light it'd most likely short out (most light bodies are grounded to negative).
2) put the multimeter in current mode. You need to find the A settings (for Amperes); there are likely two or three settings (may require you to move the cables on the meter), and you might have AC current mode on the meter. You want DC mode, which is represented by a symbol like this (as opposed to AC current, which has this symbol and is useless to you right now).
Your meter most likely has a settings for milliamps (probably the "20m" you mentioned) and either one or two settings for higher figures, typically a 1A or 2A setting (possibly a 200mA as well).
You need to place it on the highest setting, which is going to be 1A or 2A, or maybe 10A for particularly versatile meters. Carefully look at the probe connections on the meter - it's likely you have to switch the positive lead to another connection, typically the one that reads "UNFUSED" with a big fat warning sign nearby.
3) turn on the multimeter
4) turn on the light. This being a simple resistored design, you don't have to worry about running drivers unloaded.
5) connect one probe to the wire you unsoldered, the other on the solder tab on the LED itself. Be careful not to bump the lens on the LED: if bumped hard enough it could detach ruining the emitter.
6) as soon as the circuit is completed the emitter should light up, and you should get a reading on the multimeter's display, something like 0.7 or 0.75. Be sure to have a steady connection inbetween the probes and the contacts; if the number on the meter keeps changing, it means you need a better connection (you might need jumper wires).
6) switch the light to low mode; the value should now change to a much lower number.
7) turn everything off, solder the black wire back on the LED.

You now have the current values. Post them here. 🙂

By the way, you are using NiMH cells in this light, right? You're not running it on alkalines, I hope?
 
Yes Im ussing 1000mah Nimh cells.

I just took the P7 apart and got to the point of that foto up on the topic.

I was now reading carrefully your info and I have a question , cant I do that without unsolder the wires?

Since they are so exposed what would be the difference between testing like you said and without unsolder the wire?

I think I undestand how to do it , I just dont want to unsolder anything (not lasy just scared to kill the led).

Regards,
 
Without unsolder I cant read anything 🙁

Did Voltage reading and it was 2.7v in low and 3.4v in high..

Will I really need to unsolder the wires? 😛

Regards, and thanks for the help , keep it coming!
 
You need to open the circuit to measure current, and then close it again with the multimeter in series. The only other way to measure current is using a hall effect clamp meter, but those are very expensive.
You won't ruin the LED just by soldering and unsoldering the wire if you don't leave the tip of the iron on the contacts for a really long time. If you're unsure, read one of the many soldering FAQs available online and then have a go at it.

Edit: you could also cut the wire, strip the extremities and measure from them, but then you'd need to solder it back together, and I'm not sure if there's enough leeway in your wires to allow for that.
 
Did not have time to do anything today.
But from the voltage reading cant it help?

Another thing I was thinking , I cant see where to open the rest of the torch... to get to the "resistors" :|
Any help?

It was already difficult to open this part...

Regards,
 
hello gotta led lenser p 7 myself the resistors are built into the switch you have to unscrew the battery clip from the tail cap switch to reveal the switch itself its a square case with 4 screws holding it together undo the screws to reveal resistors .ok
 
gee, so much effort.
just use the p7 as a secondary torch, bust your a$$ and work a couple extra shifts and get a cheap, high powered one... 😛
 
Led lenser P7 as candle light.

For those who have a led lenser p7 and don't know how to make it a candle light just like mini maglite.

Here's how:

First, unscrew the top half of the head, then slide the bottom half all the way down and remove it from the body.

Next, screw the top and bottom head together and there you go. You already have a base. All you need to is put the body into the base and you have a candle light similar to the mini maglite.

This would probably work on other led lenser model too.
 
Re: Led lenser P7 as candle light.

For those who have a led lenser p7 and don't know how to make it a candle light just like mini maglite.

Here's how:

First, unscrew the top half of the head, then slide the bottom half all the way down and remove it from the body.

Next, screw the top and bottom head together and there you go. You already have a base. All you need to is put the body into the base and you have a candle light similar to the mini maglite.

This would probably work on other led lenser model too.

I have no idea what you just said.
 
Just to state the obvious to the OP, if you can't desolder the led to test for current how are you going to do the modifications you are asking about?
 
Re: Led lenser P7 as candle light.

For those who have a led lenser p7 and don't know how to make it a candle light just like mini maglite.

Here's how:

First, unscrew the top half of the head, then slide the bottom half all the way down and remove it from the body.

Next, screw the top and bottom head together and there you go. You already have a base. All you need to is put the body into the base and you have a candle light similar to the mini maglite.

This would probably work on other led lenser model too.

I works for my T7.

I have no idea what you just said.

What he meant was this.

First, unscrew the top half of the head

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Slide the bottom half all the way down and remove it from the body

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Screw the top and bottom head together

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You already have a base, put the body into the base and you have a candle light

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Done. :poof:
 
Re: Led lenser P7 as candle light.

hi i have a P7 and it runs out way to fast. My Fenix LD41 is a great out door torch. I would likt to make my P7 regulated. Has anyone or know of anyone who has done it? Could you suggest how to do it?

My thoughts
1
Get a dc to dc regulator, i think a 6v to 6v?

2
Where can i find one small enough to fit in a P7, where would it go inside the P7?

3
Perhaps i can fit one that's aaa battery size into the battery carrier, would it cause regulated to happen? Maybe it needs to be wetween the torch and carrier contacts?

Thank you
 
Re: Led lenser P7 as candle light.

I have found this site selling a voltage regulator. Is this what I need ?
http://mobile.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=8067

Why the 3 legs? Do I connect two to a positive and one to a negative, on the battery carrier's positive and negative ?
🙂
thank you

I don't know enough to provide really good answer.
I do know enough to say forget that!

"capable of supplying 100mA" You will need 5 - 10 times that current.

EDIT: read a bit more "or 1.5A (Order Codes UF27E and N61CA) "
get the dta sheet. See under the details on that link "These voltage regulators are exceptionally easy to use and require only 2 external reistors to set the output voltage."

So you need room to squeeze 2 resistors in as well.
This is a voltage regulator. Current regulators are suitable for LEDs.
 
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Re: Led lenser P7 as candle light.

I used to own an Led Lenser P14. Whilst it was perfectly good it lacked a regulated power supply leading to wildly varying results. This was due to discharge characteristics of whatever batteries I was using at the time. IMHO your P7 is too fussy to mod properly-too much effort for too little change. If you aren't happy (I HATE saying this...) you need to look elsewhere.
 
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