Malkoff "Hound Dog"

[peter yetman]

Re: Malkoff Hound Dog

Hi all, I am on the fence about buying a HD head to mount on my MD 1.5. Will the difference in throw be dramatically different then my Nailbender P60 XP-L Hi ? Thanks.

Haven't got that particular Drop In, but bearing in mind the size of the respective heads the HD is going to trash the P60.
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[Strintguy]

That's a good push over the fence Peter, thanks...

 

[peter yetman]

I fitted a HD head to an MD1 once. It was a bit bonkers, but fun.
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[Jose Marin]

Re: Malkoff "Hound Dog"

Hi all, I am on the fence about buying a HD head to mount on my MD 1.5. Will the difference in throw be dramatically different then my Nailbender P60 XP-L Hi ? Thanks.

My direct drive xpl hi p60s get around 36-37kcd with 1400 ish lumens at turn on which is right up there with the hound dog xml/18650. My direct drive xpg2 de domes get 50-60kcd with 800ish lumens at turn on which is right behind the hound dog super throw wise but not as much lumens.

 

[wildweed]

Re: Malkoff "Hound Dog"

Hi all, I am on the fence about buying a HD head to mount on my MD 1.5. Will the difference in throw be dramatically different then my Nailbender P60 XP-L Hi ? Thanks.

That is weird you ask as I just tested last night my new HD18650 neutral and a 6P with the custom lite XP-L Hi 5000k which I believe is Nailbender, It was not as dramatic as you might think. The HD 18650 throws a little farther but a not by much. I love the tint and hi/low of the HD 18650 much better but for a smaller light the 6P with that drop in holds it own. There was some stuff in the air, smoke from campsites and maybe a little drizzle but from google earth they were both lighting up a hill at 200 yards away ( I was on a power line ) with the HD 18650 reaching out a little farther with a tighter hot spot. Thats just my observation on last night. I will be out looking again tonight

 

[peter yetman]

Re: Malkoff "Hound Dog"

Well, I'm amazed.
Thanks,
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[Strintguy]

Thanks for posting that Wild!

 

[INFRNL]

Hi all, I am on the fence about buying a HD head to mount on my MD 1.5. Will the difference in throw be dramatically different then my Nailbender P60 XP-L Hi ? Thanks.

While the HD on MD1.5 is pretty cool, runtimes will be a bit lower. You will definitely want to use the 2000mah keeppower cells.

You need a test on 4x123.

3x123 is not impressive

Well, Just for you ETC. If you were not impressed with 3x123, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this is what you get when you ask

I also think Jose might be right, I will have to do more testing when all my new cells come in (currently in the process of finding out the difference between USA primaries/ some interesting results so far)
Oh, back on track; when doing a constant runtime test cells hit a certain temp then behave in a weird manor.

 

[INFRNL]

Also at some point someone asked me what meter i use. I use a Extech EA30 easyview. But recently doing these tests, I just can't hang out for hours on end babysitting these tests. So I have decided to get a meter with a datalogger. I'm going to try one of the cheaper ones which should be plenty for any light I ever plan to test. It sould be able to datalog output as well as temp and put it into an excel doc. The higher end model will do higher output and datalogging but no temps and uses software for the datalogging (might get this one if I am not happy with the one I plan to get)

Also, Anyone interested in the rough differences in CR123A's will have to keep an eye out in the Junkie thread. I have tested: Battery Station, Streamlight, and Surefire so far. Plan to test panasonic, duracell, rayovac and titanium as well.

 

[etc]

So there it is. MD4 gets twice the runtime of MD3. That is impressive and not what I had expected. I knew it would be better but had trouble quantifying it.

Just 1 cell makes a huge difference. The light runs off 12V, not 9V.

This is a huge advantage of Hound Dog and Hound Dog Super. They run on 12V. Most other Malkoff modules cap at 9V. Either 3x123 or 2x18650. Exceed that and your runtime will shrink to a nano-second.

This is an excellent graph.

 

[twl]

Same thing with MD3 2 x 18500(1500mah) vs MD4 2 x 18650(3400mah).
The 2 x 18650 give at least twice the runtime there too, even at the same 8.4v.

However, I find that the MD3 is a more convenient form factor, so I just carry an extra set of 18500 in my pocket. I have my HD XML2 on an MD4, but I carry the Wildcats on MD3 more often because use they are more convenient to carry. Just one cell length seems to make a difference in convenient carry too.

If I know that I will need a lot of run time, then I will take the MD4 and a pair of spare 18650. But that is very rare. In fact, it is very rare that I run out of battery in the MD3 during normal daily activities. I run it most of the time in Low, and High only gets a fraction of the run time in my normal use.

 

[Modernflame]

I enjoy all of the options. I've got plenty of MD4's and 18650's, but I just recently ordered my first MD3. Looking forward to the reduced form factor, even at the cost of run time. This could make my Wildcat + tricap a legitimate edc option for me.

I still don't think I could pocket carry the hound dog, though. The bezel is just too wide for my use.

 

[NH Lumens]

Yeah....so I just ordered a Neutral HD 18650 with a new MD2/Tricap....

I really like mine. Here it is with the Tricap and a Raven Concealment Pock Clip with DIY finger lanyard;

 

[NH Lumens]

I still don't think I could pocket carry the hound dog, though. The bezel is just too wide for my use.

On an MD2 body (HD 18650) it's not bad in a cargo pants or relaxed-fit jeans pocket. I wouldn't want to EDC it but if I know I'm going to be using it, clipping it in a pocket for a few hours is no big deal. The Wildcat v.6/MD3 does carry easier though....

 

[INFRNL]

@NH Lumens: Beautiful as always:twothumbs Same with your recent pics in the junkie thread.

I as well as the others always appreciate pictures; They always liven up the room, Much better than just a bunch of text. I'm glad that a few of you have been keeping pics posted on a regular basis

 

[NH Lumens]

@NH Lumens: Beautiful as always:twothumbs Same with your recent pics in the junkie thread.

I as well as the others always appreciate pictures; They always liven up the room, Much better than just a bunch of text. I'm glad that a few of you have been keeping pics posted on a regular basis

Thanks, your kudos are much appreciated!

Just for grins and giggles, I'm going to try the Wildcat v.6 head on a MD2 with a pair of IMR 18350 cells. Probably no more than 20 minutes of run time on high, but low should go all night. The WC v.6/MD2 will be my next photo session (something about all of that light coming out of a MD2 body).

 

[WebHobbit]

The Malkoff Tricap looks really sweet. Can't wait for mine to come in. If I like it as much as I think I will I may even be inclined to sell off my Oveready Triad that I have on my (my Wife's really) cool 18650 HD. Heck as much as they sell for I could probably get $80.00 (it's black in PERFECT condition and has a GITD switch cover) and come out $35.00 ahead after buying the Malkoff version!

 

[twl]

Thanks, your kudos are much appreciated!

Just for grins and giggles, I'm going to try the Wildcat v.6 head on a MD2 with a pair of IMR 18350 cells. Probably no more than 20 minutes of run time on high, but low should go all night. The WC v.6/MD2 will be my next photo session (something about all of that light coming out of a MD2 body).

I do this with my WC and HD all the time

 

[INFRNL]

Thanks, your kudos are much appreciated!

Just for grins and giggles, I'm going to try the Wildcat v.6 head on a MD2 with a pair of IMR 18350 cells. Probably no more than 20 minutes of run time on high, but low should go all night. The WC v.6/MD2 will be my next photo session (something about all of that light coming out of a MD2 body).

somewhere I have results for WCv6 on both 18350's and 16340's, it definitely was not good

The Malkoff Tricap looks really sweet. Can't wait for mine to come in. If I like it as much as I think I will I may even be inclined to sell off my Oveready Triad that I have on my (my Wife's really) cool 18650 HD. Heck as much as they sell for I could probably get $80.00 (it's black in PERFECT condition and has a GITD switch cover) and come out $35.00 ahead after buying the Malkoff version!

I definitely like the tricap on Malkoff lights more than triad but this is very subjective to ea individual. It is a bit less bulky and matches a bit better in my opinion. Function of triad is probably a bit better for those with aging hands/fingers

 

[NH Lumens]

somewhere I have results for WCv6 on both 18350's and 16340's, it definitely was not good

A quick test with a pair of freshly charged KeepPower IMR 18350 750mah cells, 15 minutes (timed) on high;

Starting voltage = 4.19
Ending voltage = 3.68

In a MD2 body this would be used for EDC where max output would only be used in short bursts. On low the WC v.6 head provides more than enough illumination for walking, and is actually just right for indoor use. I'm really "warming up" to this wide, smooth high-CRI beam and beautiful tint, enough that I'd carry it regularly on a MD2 body.

I foresee another photo session coming....