Malkoff M31
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That's cool. Meaning it has been optimized for 2xAA. Good.
I have realized that 2xAA is much more practical than 3xAA.
I have had that 3xAA body from FM laying around but never really EDC'ed it everywhere. Neat concept but not the most practical, thus I welcome 2xAA.
More about that 2xAA body?
I have been wanting a single AA hi/lo of this quality for ten years now. It is a shame the M31 won't run well on one AA as that shoots down another hopeful solution.
I just want a simple light and I cannot believe that there are not any like this.
I just want a simple light and I cannot believe that there are not any like this.
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Paul_in_Maryland
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Re: Malkoff M31 vs. Dereelight, Nailbender, and Thrunite
Indeed, I was going to put an M31 in my outsized FiveMega 1xAA keyring light, which is currently equipped with a 0.9-4.2V Dereelight XP-G. This changes things. I may replace the Dereelight with a NailBender XR-E, in neutral white, with Nailbender's 8- or 40-degree optic and low-voltage driver. At heart, I'm a flood lover; I would lean toward the 40. But a 1.6V AA cell just won't deliver enough lumens to spread over 40 degrees, so I may try the 8; after all, I also carry a 2AA Malkoff M30WF, which is plenty floody (30 degrees) and plenty bright. One 30-degree flood, one 8-degree spot would cover a lot of bases.
Too bad; I prefer 1-level lights, but the low-voltage offerings from Thrunite and Nailbender are all 3-level. Dereelight makes my current module in single-level, but their 0.9-4.2V high-output XP-G (1.5A) is available only in 3-level and you don't get a choice of tint. Thrunite's 1.5A XP-G drop-in is available in single-mode, but neither it nor the 3-mode version is regulated below 2.7V.
Maybe I should just buy a thin-head AA like a Quark in neutral-white and call it a day...
Indeed, I was going to put an M31 in my outsized FiveMega 1xAA keyring light, which is currently equipped with a 0.9-4.2V Dereelight XP-G. This changes things. I may replace the Dereelight with a NailBender XR-E, in neutral white, with Nailbender's 8- or 40-degree optic and low-voltage driver. At heart, I'm a flood lover; I would lean toward the 40. But a 1.6V AA cell just won't deliver enough lumens to spread over 40 degrees, so I may try the 8; after all, I also carry a 2AA Malkoff M30WF, which is plenty floody (30 degrees) and plenty bright. One 30-degree flood, one 8-degree spot would cover a lot of bases.
Too bad; I prefer 1-level lights, but the low-voltage offerings from Thrunite and Nailbender are all 3-level. Dereelight makes my current module in single-level, but their 0.9-4.2V high-output XP-G (1.5A) is available only in 3-level and you don't get a choice of tint. Thrunite's 1.5A XP-G drop-in is available in single-mode, but neither it nor the 3-mode version is regulated below 2.7V.
Maybe I should just buy a thin-head AA like a Quark in neutral-white and call it a day...
FroggyTaco
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bigchelis
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Re: Malkoff M31 vs. Dereelight, Nailbender, and Thrunite
The low voltage P60 drivers from the rest of them give partial power with 2 AA cells.
The M31 will/might give full power with 1 or 2 AA cells😗
The low voltage P60 drivers from the rest of them give partial power with 2 AA cells.
The M31 will/might give full power with 1 or 2 AA cells😗
brunt_sp
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The 2 X AA body is now featured.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/malkoff-valiant-little-twisty-2xaa-p-90.html
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/malkoff-valiant-little-twisty-2xaa-p-90.html
Paul_in_Maryland
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Re: Malkoff M31 vs. Dereelight, Nailbender, and Thrunite
This finding ratifies my purchase, 2 hours ago, of a 1AA Romisen single-mode flashlight in neutral white, for $21 shipped. If all goes as hoped, the Romisen will dislodge the 1AA Fivemega/Dereelight 1.2A XR-G from my keychain. The Dereelight has 3 modes, and I'm a single-mode guy.
We now have the answer: full regulated output is reached at 1.8 volts...just north of the output provided by a nickel-zinc cell.
This finding ratifies my purchase, 2 hours ago, of a 1AA Romisen single-mode flashlight in neutral white, for $21 shipped. If all goes as hoped, the Romisen will dislodge the 1AA Fivemega/Dereelight 1.2A XR-G from my keychain. The Dereelight has 3 modes, and I'm a single-mode guy.
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No knurling?
timbo114
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Bullzeyebill
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Re: Malkoff M31 vs. Dereelight, Nailbender, and Thrunite
Whoa guys, this is a Malkoff M31 thread, and the thread title should not be changing with various posts. Gets confusing, and off topic. Starting your own thread would be a good solution. 🙂
Bill
Whoa guys, this is a Malkoff M31 thread, and the thread title should not be changing with various posts. Gets confusing, and off topic. Starting your own thread would be a good solution. 🙂
Bill
bigchelis
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I have a personal M30 that I use with 2 NiZn AA cells. They are 1.8V fresh off the charger and I get this:
UBH Body_____________M30 XR-E Q5___________2 AA NiZn ____________189.2 ______ 1 sec________________________
________________3.5v Input = 1A at the tail_________________________183.1_______30 sec_______________________
__________________________Arctic Silver 5______________________________________ 182.3_______1 min______________________
______________I swapped to a old school twistie__________________________________179.2_______2 min________________________
______________________________________________________________________________179.2_______3 min________________________
I am looking forward to the M31 because I bet it will hit at least 200 OTF with 2 NiMH AA cell and likely more with 2 NiZn cells.
The max voltage input is 3.3V, but my NiZn AA cells topped off are 3.5V input. I wonder if these will sag enough to not fry the M31????
bigC
UBH Body_____________M30 XR-E Q5___________2 AA NiZn ____________189.2 ______ 1 sec________________________
________________3.5v Input = 1A at the tail_________________________183.1_______30 sec_______________________
__________________________Arctic Silver 5______________________________________ 182.3_______1 min______________________
______________I swapped to a old school twistie__________________________________179.2_______2 min________________________
______________________________________________________________________________179.2_______3 min________________________
I am looking forward to the M31 because I bet it will hit at least 200 OTF with 2 NiMH AA cell and likely more with 2 NiZn cells.
The max voltage input is 3.3V, but my NiZn AA cells topped off are 3.5V input. I wonder if these will sag enough to not fry the M31????
bigC
Bullzeyebill
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BC, I would guess you would see some mild overdrive, if that. 1A draw from cells should pull it down below 3.3 before it gets to LED.
Bill
Bill
bigchelis
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Bill,
You are likely right. I was thinking of using my E-series clickies on these UBH bodies too. They produce way way more resistance then twisties.
I would not want to try the VME twistie AA hosts, which are a steal at the advertised price😱 My thinking is they produce zero(nearly) resistance.
timbo114
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I'm in.
1 M31
1 VME twistie AA host
My 1st Malkoff purchase - I can't wait! 😀
1 M31
1 VME twistie AA host
My 1st Malkoff purchase - I can't wait! 😀
The new M31 NOT 18650 compatible :mecry:
Glad I didn't sell off my M30 !!
Malkoff description:
The input voltage is 0.8 to 3.3 volts. It requires 1.8v for full output. The output is approximately 230 measured out the front lumens at 1.8-3.3v and 150 lumens at 1.2v. The current draw is 1 Amp 3 volts and 1.4 Amps at 2.4 volts. It is ideal for use with one CR123 primary, two 1.5v AA lithiums, or two rechargeable AA NIMH batteries. DO NOT USE A SINGLE LITHIUM RECHARGEABLE CELL. YOU WILL DESTOY IT!!!
Glad I didn't sell off my M30 !!
Malkoff description:
The input voltage is 0.8 to 3.3 volts. It requires 1.8v for full output. The output is approximately 230 measured out the front lumens at 1.8-3.3v and 150 lumens at 1.2v. The current draw is 1 Amp 3 volts and 1.4 Amps at 2.4 volts. It is ideal for use with one CR123 primary, two 1.5v AA lithiums, or two rechargeable AA NIMH batteries. DO NOT USE A SINGLE LITHIUM RECHARGEABLE CELL. YOU WILL DESTOY IT!!!
