Malkoff M60 Mod

lewong

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When I bought my first Surefire, a 6P, I found, through researching CPF, that the Malkoff M60 was one of the best P60 drop-ins. I really like the beam profile produced by the optic of Malkoff M60, but for my situation, something other than 100% brightness is sometimes more useful.

One of my favorite mods is using the DX 7612 circuit board. Though it offers 16 modes in 3 groups, I like it because one of the groups has only low-med-high, with no strobe. I've modded my Lumapower D-Mini, an Ultrafire C2 and a few P60 drop-ins with this board.

I recently bought a bored 6P body, and I thought the DX 7612 would be a good mod for a Malkoff M60. It was kind of difficult to get up the nerve to try to mod it, with the possibly destroying a $55 drop-in, but I decided to try it today.

I read about the potting material used in the M60. The rear of the drop-in is sealed with this material. I thought it would be hard but I found the material was actually soft and rubbery. I used a jeweler's screwdriver as a chisel to start removing it. As I got close to the circuit board, I used a little lacquer thinner to soften the black sealing material. When I removed all the material from the top of the board, I used some more lacquer thinner to soften the material in the gaps in the side, and I was able to pry the board up and remove it.

The diameter of the DX 7612 board is about 17mm. The Malkoff had about 16.5mm for the board, so I used a Dremel sanding band to reduce the diameter of the 7612.

The other significant thing I realized as I disassembled the Malkoff, was how well the housing works as a heat sink. When I desoldered the Malkoff board from the housing, I could tell from the way it retained the heat (because of its mass), how well it worked as a heat sink.

With the DX 7612 on high and a 18650 battery, the modded Malkoff output looks pretty much the same as the stock Malkoff M60 on high with two RCR123s. I haven't taken any measurements, but the specs for the 7612 says it puts out 1000ma @ 3.7v, and since I didn't move the LED or the optic, it seems like my modded Malkoff M60 is just like the stock one but with different levels.

M60 with potting material and contact spring removed:
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M60 with circuit board removed and potting material on top of the LED and optic:
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M60 with DX 7612 circuit board:
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interesting.
Can you explain why you did not just buy a cree optic and add that to a cheap p-60 drop-in?
I have no idea if it would fit inside of a dx reflector...
 
interesting.
Can you explain why you did not just buy a cree optic and add that to a cheap p-60 drop-in?
I have no idea if it would fit inside of a dx reflector...

I don't think you can just drop a Khatod ~5 degree optic in the DX reflector, at least not without extreme machining mods. I have thought about trying it though.
 
I sure wish Gene would offer multi-mode drop ins. I could go for a M30WF with 5%-25%-100%. No strobe or sos garbage. Even better would be a circuit that could ramp up from low to high.:rock:
 
CampingLED, I haven't done any measurements, but when I compared the beam brightness to some of my other P60 drop-ins on a white wall, it looked pretty much the same as the stock M60.

Moddoo, I have a couple of DX 23.36mm Optics that I put in my Sylvania/Osram Mini 4AA Lantern Upgrade
and the beam didn't look very good. I've found some Khatod Cree optics but never ordered any.

After your suggestion, I tried fitting a DX optic on a P60 pill. It was a little short in the 6P body and a spring wouldn't fit on it because the reflector wasn't there to retain it. Plus there wasn't much metal there for heat sinking. Maybe it could work if part of the reflector was cut off.

Besides the beam profile, the thing I like about the Malkoff is the heat sinking ability of the module.
 
In my mind, this is the best way to get into creating your own products. When I first got into computers, I was afraid to touch the guts. A little bit at a time, I learned how to change out parts/upgrade components, until I felt comfortable building my own computer.

I think modding an existing dropin is a great way to get into building one's own modules.
 
This is too painful to watch especially sticking a DX driver into a Malkoff. Kind of like sticking a Kia engine into a Lexus.
Good job though and thanks for the info. I have always wondered how tough it would be open an M60.
I also would like to have different modes on my M60 but I don't dare open up the guts on my M60. I have found that the Skyray SR-5 XPG drop in closely matches the beam profile and the brightness of my M60. The beam is actually better in some ways then the M60.
 
If you still have the original Malkoff M60 driver, can you take a photo of the component side of the board. Thanks.
 
I'll add my usual followup right now -- can you read the markings on the large IC with the (6, 8) legs? Thanks. :crackup:
 
This is too painful to watch especially sticking a DX driver into a Malkoff. Kind of like sticking a Kia engine into a Lexus.
Good job though and thanks for the info. I have always wondered how tough it would be open an M60.
I also would like to have different modes on my M60 but I don't dare open up the guts on my M60. I have found that the Skyray SR-5 XPG drop in closely matches the beam profile and the brightness of my M60. The beam is actually better in some ways then the M60.

Oh c'mon, the DX drivers aren't that bad. You've got to give DX credit for giving us tinkerer flashaholics an expensive means to parts (as well as flashlights). To my knowledge, Gene's driver probably best follows the Surefire model with reference to a Surefire Twisty tailcap in that it's simple and very reliable. But as the OP had done last year (this is an old thread), he took the initiative to turn the M60 into exactly what he needed it to be.
 

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