Malkoff M61W

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Just received a M61WL and popped it into a G2. All I have to say is :twothumbs. Excellent all around. Tint is perfectly neutral, not sure I'd even want it any warmer. Now all I need is for AW to start selling IMR 17670's and it'll be perfect. Just ordered another G2 to host a future M61WLL. 😀
 
Anyone try this on a weaponlight? I understand it needs a fitting ring to work with shock isolated bezels?

When it comes back in stock I will be ordering one, (Way cheaper than a KM3) and putting a few hundred rounds through my AR with it mounted.
 
txgp17 said:
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I think you'll like this one better.

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(Original at flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31055544@N05/4836813390/)

The wall is light beige, not white, but this photo is very close to what I perceived with my own eyes. My favorites in this group are:

Warm White Wildcat (495 thermally stable lumens, as measured by bigchelis)
M30W #1
M30W #2
M61W #1 is pretty much neutral, followed closely by M61W #2
The plain vanilla M61 is clearly cool white, but not to excess. It doesn't make flesh look as zombified as some other cool white LEDs (say, Surefire 6P LED).

The M61W does a decent job of illuminating wood grain and human flesh, so you can tell the dead stuff from the live stuff.

The Wildcat and M30W #1 are in my EDC rotation, with hi/low rings in MD3 and MD2 format. I've started carrying M61W #1 in a SureFire 6P as well - you can leave it on full blast for extended periods with barely any heat buildup. And the lower power consumption helps the 17670 last longer.

Best regards,
Max_Power

"You're the worst kind; you're high maintenance but you think you're low maintenance." -- Harry, in 'When Harry Met Sally'
 
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OK, so M61W is not really "warm" but neutral and not that much different from M61, which is not bad to begin with.
 
I agree. The beam of the M61 in not nearly as blue in real life as the image above depicts it. To me, when not comparing it side by side with something warmer, it doesn't seem to be cool at all but rather neutral in hue.
 
Actually the M61 is noticeably blue, your eyes may not be as sensitive to blue as the camera sensor is for various reasons (maybe you have less blue receptors, or more black and white receptors, or the brightness washes out the color.) I've got 2 of the M61 cool whites that I am considering selling off so that I can replace them with M61W modules. My color vision is excellent, so I really notice the difference. The acid test for "is it blue?" is to illuminate my own arm or hand. If it looks like there are no red blood cells in there, the light is too blue. The M61W makes me look like a Vulcan (yellow-greenish cast but not heavily blue.) Main reasons for using the M61W are huge light output that's not heavily blue, extended runtime, and low waste heat. (And bulletproof construction / warranty.)
 
Say what you will but the perceived color of the M61, at least the ones I own, is not nearly as blue as that depicted in your photo. Is it more blue than the neutral by relative comparison? Absolutely. Does it appear overtly blue in real life when viewed alone and independent of some other warmer beam to make it appear blue by comparison? Not to me.

Perhaps your ultra-tuned bionic senses are more acute than mine. :poke: YMMV.
 
Looks like the camera is exaggerating the coloration just a bit - good for determining color, bad for emulating the human perception. I could try increasing the exposure to make the colors wash out.
 
Just received the P61W today. Color is neutral with a hint of a slightly darker yellow center inside the hotspot, like a cadbury egg. Great reflector, right amount of spill light without being overpowering or weak. Reflected spill off nearby walls won't blind you if you're clearing a home. Hot spot is roughly a yard in diameter at 7 yards. I hope to put some hours on it and see if it grows on me even more. Testing in a G2. If it gets too hot, into a 6P it goes.
 
Cesiumsponge said:
Just received the P61W today. Color is neutral with a hint of a slightly darker yellow center inside the hotspot, like a cadbury egg. Great reflector, right amount of spill light without being overpowering or weak. Reflected spill off nearby walls won't blind you if you're clearing a home. Hot spot is roughly a yard in diameter at 7 yards. I hope to put some hours on it and see if it grows on me even more. Testing in a G2. If it gets too hot, into a 6P it goes.
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If it doesnt grow on ya Ill happily trade ya for am M61L :twothumbs. I would love to get my hands on one for investigative purposed and just a general duty light.
 
Did Gene mention what the limiting factor on the G2 is? When I first got it ages ago (stock lamp), it accidentally activated in my coat pocket and I smelled burnt plastic. It ended up bubbling the OEM polycarbonate lens but the body seemed fine. First and last time I made that mistake 😗 I dropped in a UCL glass lens and no more problems.

I added the delrin tailcap shroud, crenellated bezel, a mcclicky, and a pocket clip as well. The Malkoff polishes it off and it completely changed it's personality. Fifteen minutes continuous should be more than sufficient for me since the light isn't taking on a utility role. I am new here and I don't have a vast collection of lights but the neutral output of the M61W is nice nice nice! I'll try to take pictures and color correct this weekend.
 
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Cesiumsponge said:
Did Gene mention what the limiting factor on the G2 is?
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The heat doesnt transfer to the plastic like the Aluminum bodies do. I had a 7 hour run with my 6P w/ M61WL, I'm tellin ya, it didnt even get warm. The light was sitting on a table, with no fan or anything, it was just barely over room temp.
 
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