Malkoff P7 Direct Drive Drop-In (Photos)

[Bullzeyebill]

You WANT your light to get hot, your going to kill your Malkoff if you don't dissipate the heat. it might not show right away but your slowly cooking the led and it wont last very long at all.

-Bobby

The aluminum foil is going to help conduction of heat from the module to the head/body. I use foil for all of my LED drop-ins for Surefire bodies. Use of foil will result in slower drop off in output due to heat. It is measurable and I have compared runtimes using Malkoff M30 with and without foil using bounce with lightmeter. Not sure why the poster said he did not feel any heat pulling 2+ amps, using the Malkoff P7.

Bill

 

[bigchelis]

The aluminum foil is going to help conduction of heat from the module to the head/body. I use foil for all of my LED drop-ins for Surefire bodies. Use of foil will result in slower drop off in output due to heat. It is measurable and I have compared runtimes using Malkoff M30 with and without foil using bounce with lightmeter. Not sure why the poster said he did not feel any heat pulling 2+ amps, using the Malkoff P7.

Bill

When I held my Surefire 6P w/P7 in my hands for 20 minutes it gets really warm, but afterwards it just doesn't seem to get warm, but still super bright. I did try and just leave it on without me holding it and it gets hot, reall hot. I think me holding it helps reduce the heat dramatically. So, much for a bike light.:sick2: I wonder if I put it on my head with a head band my head will keep it cool🤢 just kidding, probably not.

 

[Optik49]

Any Recommendations on a good host with a Clicky tail cap. I wanted a bored out surefire but I cannot seem to find one. It looks like I will have to get a Solarforce or Five Mega.

 

[DHart]

Any Recommendations on a good host with a Clicky tail cap. I wanted a bored out surefire but I cannot seem to find one. It looks like I will have to get a Solarforce or Five Mega.

I'm not a big fan of boring out a perfectly good Surefire to take an 18650, but you are likely to be able to use a 17670 in a stock SF 6P host just fine. I ran my Malkoff P7 lamp in a Surefire Z2 for awhile with the 17670 and it worked great, but ultimately I decided to run a Malkoff M30 with 17670 in the Z2 and create a new host for my P7.

I've found this to be a great option for my P7:

SolarForce Head, FiveMega body, SolarForce tail (fwd click w/momentary), and AW 18650 protected cell obtained from LightHound. P7 lamp assembly from Malkoff. Works superbly!

This is a GREAT light for indoors work, flooding a dark room with bright light, walking through your dark house exploring a noise, or when wanting a good light to blast an assailant with broad, super bright light - and the crenulated bezel could come in very handy in such a situation, where your gun wasn't happening for whatever reason. These are applications where a narrow thrower isn't quite as useful, but the Malkoff P7 shines in these applications. I use the M60 and M30 Malkoffs for more general-use lights where there is a need to light up more distant things.

 

[nfetterly]

Got my P7 about 2 weeks ago, had emailed Gene earlier and he had said to email back in a week or so. I'd ordered previously from him, so that may have helped.

Takes 1 battery (up to 4.5 v), works great on a FiveMega (Nite supplied) 1 x 18650 (basically a bored 6P) with Surefire heads & tails.

What does not work is the Multilevel (for incans) switch for C/P/Z/M tailcaps by AW - it works on the other Malkoffs I've got (even though it's made specifically for softstarting & giving multilevel to incans).

As said above - it is a huge flood of light, while I like good throw this is really impressive.

 

[Policetacteam]

DHart,

Nice set-up!!! Great pictures too! That was exactly what I was looking to put together! Nice to see it in it's working configuration. :twothumbs

 

[Bullzeyebill]

When I held my Surefire 6P w/P7 in my hands for 20 minutes it gets really warm, but afterwards it just doesn't seem to get warm, but still super bright. I did try and just leave it on without me holding it and it gets hot, reall hot. I think me holding it helps reduce the heat dramatically. So, much for a bike light.:sick2: I wonder if I put it on my head with a head band my head will keep it cool🤢 just kidding, probably not.

That's ok, don't just sit it down and let it run. Hold onto it like you have been doing. Really better for the LED.

Bill

 

[Monocrom]

DHart,

Nice set-up!!! Great pictures too! That was exactly what I was looking to put together! Nice to see it in it's working configuration. :twothumbs

A big +1 on that!

Very sweet set-up. Nice to see that the FiveMega bodies work well with Solarforce bezels and tailcaps.... And while typing this, I just realized that the new Solarforce L2 hosts will accept an 18650 cell.

Quick question, my Solarforce forward-clickie is very sensative. The smallest amount of thumb pressure causes it to click on. Does your tailcap exhibit more spring resistence? (I honestly can't refer to mine as having a momentary function, due to how easily it clicks on).

 

[Kestrel]

I've found this to be a great option for my P7 ... the Malkoff P7 shines in these applications. I use the M60 and M30 Malkoffs for more general-use lights where there is a need to light up more distant things.

Those are some really nice photos. It's fun to swap around all those Malkoff modules between lights isn't it?😎

Memo to self: buy more Malkoff's ...

 

[DHart]

A big +1 on that! Very sweet set-up. Nice to see that the FiveMega bodies work well with Solarforce bezels and tailcaps.... And while typing this, I just realized that the new Solarforce L2 hosts will accept an 18650 cell.

Quick question, my Solarforce forward-clickie is very sensative. The smallest amount of thumb pressure causes it to click on. Does your tailcap exhibit more spring resistence? (I honestly can't refer to mine as having a momentary function, due to how easily it clicks on).

The Solarforce tailcap in my pics above is just a hair more sensitive than the button on my SF Z2, but not so much that I have any issues with it. It has a definite distinction in thumb pressure between "momentary" and a little harder for "on". And of course you can lock it out with a slight counter twist.

And yes, the Solarforce L2 (head, battery tube, and switch cap) makes a great host as well, but there isn't a "momentary" on the switch cap that comes with the complete L2 host. Practically speaking, and for the money, I think the Solarforce battery tube is just as serviceable as the much more expensive FiveMega tube is. In addition to the P7 set-up in my pics above, I have a complete Solarforce L2 host and added one of their 1-cell extension tubes onto it for a total 3-cell length, popped in two 17500's and the Malkoff M60 lamp assembly... another really nice set-up, all Solarforce components except for the Malkoff. Feels, works, and looks great.

Those are some really nice photos. It's fun to swap around all those Malkoff modules between lights isn't it?😎

Memo to self: buy more Malkoff's ...

Kestrel... yes, is sure is fun playing flashlight legos. And (thanks to YOU) I have the M30 in my Z2 powered by an AW 17670 protected. Nice set up and thanks for turning me on to the M30 choice! :thumbsup:

And I'm feeling reaaally guilty - in the last week and a half I have been shameless in buying waay too many new flashlights... gotta cut myself off NOW! (Addicted! :duh2🙂 At least I now have lots of new toyz to play with!

 

[Monocrom]

And yes, the Solarforce L2 (head, battery tube, and switch cap) makes a great host as well, but there isn't a "momentary" on the switch cap that comes with the complete L2 host.

My L2 host has a true momentary tailcap. It's the stock one that came on my Solarforce L600. On the L600, it's as hard as a rock. But on the L2 host, the momentary switch works perfectly. (Took the L2's stock reverse-clickie, and placed it on my L600. It's a 99% perfect fit. Works properly, quite snug; but you can tell it's just a hair off).

I don't think Solarforce sells the momentary tailcap seperately. (It looks just like the forward-clickie in your pics, but not as tall).

 

[DHart]

Monocrom... I may have switched around the tail caps from my L2 Host and the individual Solarforce tailcap that I also bought... the one in my pics above may be the tailcap that came with my L2 host... not sure now! :duh2: In any event, one of my Solarforce tail caps has no momentary and the other one does... the large bodied one shown above does, whereas the slim, smaller profile one doesn't.

 

[Monocrom]

Monocrom... I may have switched around the tail caps from my L2 Host and the individual Solarforce tailcap that I also bought... the one in my pics above may be the tailcap that came with my L2 host... not sure now! :duh2: In any event, one of my Solarforce tail caps has no momentary and the other one does... the large bodied one shown above does, whereas the slim, smaller profile one doesn't.

Stock tailcap on the L2 host is a reverse-clickie that is flush with the body, and has no momentary feature. The forward-clickie with the flared top is sold seperately.

 

[Bullzeyebill]

What is Gene Charging for the P7 drop-in.

Bill

 

[olrac]

What is Gene Charging for the P7 drop-in.

Bill

When I inquired it was $83 shipped

 

[DHart]

Bill.... I paid $65, plus shipping of around $6 or so.

 

[Bullzeyebill]

Thanks, DHart. :wave:

Bill

 

[DHart]

Bill... you are very welcome, my friend. I should add that the $6 for shipping was for three lamp assemblies (M60, M60F, and P7)... The M60 and M60F were $55 ea. The P7 was $65. Total was $181 including shipping.

 

[swrdply400mrelay]

Does any one have outdoor beamshots and distance shots?

 

[DHart]

There isn't really any beam, per se, to see... at any distance outdoors, you will see a very soft, wide illumination. There is a slightly perceptible brighter central area when used indoors, but nowhere near enough to be considered a beam or hot spot. With a distant outdoors setting, you're not likely to see any central brightness at all. That's about it. The light on the scene looks like what we photographers call "bare bulb" lighting. The pics at the beginning of this thread give a good example of the general illumination indoors.

This is a light that is at it's best for two things that I can think of myself (and better at these than most anything else that I'm aware of)

• broadly illuminating a room without distracting hot spots

• being blisteringly bright in momentarily rebuffing an assailant

While I would definitely take other flashlight choices (like the M60) over the Malkoff P7 as a general outdoor light, I very much value the Malkoff P7 for its abilities in those two areas.

Now i'd like to emulate those who have found ways to shoe-horn the P7 onto a single cell E-body.... that would be very sweet as a defense/carry light - offering just enough tactical dis-orienting time advantage to bring a .45 into the equation. 😎