+1m not too crazy about the keychain thing of the iTP and it's inability to tailstand. I wish they made a single mode Maratac.
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+1m not too crazy about the keychain thing of the iTP and it's inability to tailstand. I wish they made a single mode Maratac.
Marduke
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WadeF
Flashlight Enthusiast
I have the same concern. If the XP-E is getting hit with 1A or more of current from the 10440 I'd be worried. I believe the XP-E is only rated for 700mAH max? I'll probably stick to an eneloop or lithium primary.
It might be fun to try a 10440, but I would only do it for a brief time.
Hopefully 10440 users will continue to update us about their experiences. Has anyone run their Maratac AAA on a 10440 at the max setting for any length of time? 😛
It will fit, as far as the threads and diameter. But the Maratac AAA head is too short too reach the rest of the threading and O-ring on the Microstream, So they're will be a gap. But it will function properly.
Phaserburn
Flashlight Enthusiast
Over 3C! Yikes! Unsafe discharge level for the cell.
Like the 80 lumen iTP version smart guy
Thanks for the answer Mr. kydex. It would be awesome putting the single mode iTP on the MS and having a 80 lumen "tactical" AAA.
Only several extended bursts of 90-120 seconds which is already well beyond the 30 seconds I would normally run the 10440 at. The little 10440 can't maintain 1A so the LED isn't seeing that sustained. Again, the 10440 battery itself is the weak link and the highest stressed piece of the package.
Yeah, it's way above the "safe" continuous discharge but I think the key parameter here is duration, duration, duration. Li-ion seems to be very resilient when it comes to spiking discharge rates as long as they're not held there for too long. Just as other hobbyists, as in the case of RC, sometimes push their batteries, so too do 10440 users in lights such as these. Obviously medium and low don't push any of the components so the only time the battery is under stress is on high. As long as people are aware that they're "hot-rodding" the cell and thus reducing it's life a bit then I don't see what we're doing as being any different from other high performance applications.
I also fly RC aircraft, mostly electric now, and use set-ups as large as 6S 6000mAh. The discharge rates are different from li-ion cylindrical cells but the principle is still the same. A battery may have a safe continuous discharge rating of 30C but can be discharged in bursts of 60C or even higher, as long as the duration is kept short.
Any 10440 user who is occasionally using high mode in these lights should monitor the charging process carefully while keeping the rate of charge around 150-200mA. It's always important to check that the finished voltage doesn't exceed 4.2V so use your DIMMs folks.
We're always going to have two different crowds here when it comes to the operation of batteries. There are the letter of the law people who believe it's wisest to take zero risk, and there are some willing to push their equipment a bit more even if it means they wear it out a little more quickly. Neither camp is "wrong" and I respect both sides.
To put things in perspective, I mentioned earlier that I still own the first 4 10440 Ultrafire cells that I purchased nearly three years ago. I've been using them in the fashion stated above for this entire time and they're still performing admirable. I don't know of any instances of 10440 cells venting here in the CPF community and unless improper chargers are used, I don't see why that would change.
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Phaserburn
Flashlight Enthusiast
True enough. I was voicing my own opinion with my own criteria in mind; i.e. I like a light/cell combo that can be discharged fully without heat/cell issues. But used in short bursts, the cell should be ok.
DHart
Flashlight Enthusiast
Yeah... I'm definitely in the camp of using 10440s in my AAA lights as I use them merely as "convenience" lights... short, occasional usage here and there on medium, generally, and low and with some high use for short periods of time. So far, no problems for me. I never use these 10440 lights for any extended use/heavy duty applications, as there are always a bunch of bigger lights close at hand for that stuff. :thumbsup:
Kestrel
Flashaholic
:wave: In the opposite camp here. Spent more time @ dinner than anticipated with some friends, light for the long walk home in the dark was LD01/SL 2xAAA. Ran it on 'high' for one hour for maximum visibility in modest ambient light conditions (town suburbs). That would have been a severe deep discharge on 10440 that would have instead required the lower 'medium' mode, but instead it was a long, well-illuminated, worry-free walk in the dark.🙂
Sorry, going a little OT but I wanted to chime in...
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forgive me if this has been discussed already (ive only seen it mentioned, not answered)...
the maratac light claims "High Mode, 62lm Output for 48 Minutes" on countycomms site "Using A Single Duracell AAA battery"...
the iTP A3 EOS is pretty much the exact same light, different body. It claims "High 80 lumens for 55 minutes"....
what gives? different battery used for the EOS or something?
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the maratac light claims "High Mode, 62lm Output for 48 Minutes" on countycomms site "Using A Single Duracell AAA battery"...
the iTP A3 EOS is pretty much the exact same light, different body. It claims "High 80 lumens for 55 minutes"....
what gives? different battery used for the EOS or something?
shade
Ordered a natural today. Maybe it will good enough to replace a reliable Microstream I have been using for 2 years now. This is my first order with countycomm. The whole thing went through Paypal. Should I be exprecting a confirmation email from countycomm, or no? I am pretty excited, as I have many uses for this light.
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I didn't get a confirmation notice, just a notice from UPS that the light has been shipped.
DHart
Flashlight Enthusiast
Kestrel... the LD01 on medium with a 10440 gives a similar level of output to a NiMH running on high, with a runtime similar within a few minutes.... not much difference either way, really... just a thought. Like you, if I had to rely on just an LD01 for a night walk, I'd power it with NiMH.
On low, the NiMH will run nearly twice the time as a 10440. But I would feel naked going out on foot for any distance when night might be involved with just a AAA light! Guess I'd take a spare batt. On second thought, I'd just drop a 123 Quark in my pocket along with the LD01... something I do most of the time anyway. Putting the AAA into back-up role. 😉
RUNTIMES
LD01 can get nearly 4 hrs. on low with a NiMH cell.
1x 10440 320mAh LC Unprotected
High 00:10 to 50%
Medium 00:48 to 50%
Low 01:57 to 50%
1x AAA 800mAh Eneloop
High 00:55 to 50%
Medium 02:02 to 50%
Low 03:50 to 50%
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After a week long wait, I finally have my Black and Natural Maratac Lights. :thumbsup:
-The black has a stronger hot spot, and appears brighter.
-The Natural has a more defused hotspot, and appears a little less bright. Very Close though. Cant wait to see these tonight when its dark.
I am running them off Energizer Advanced Lithium at the moment
Not bothered by the PWM (Especially considering the price) BUT, it is very noticeable IMO and I would plant myself in the middle of the road as far as sensitivity is concerned.
Really nice little light, I am glad that I purchased both flavors, The shipping was a bit high but no one forced me to buy anything from CC. Overall I still think its a Great price!
And how cool is it that they come with "2" replacement O-Rings!!
My Fiance said "Its so tiny! Your going to loose that"😗
Awesome little light
-Bobby
-The black has a stronger hot spot, and appears brighter.
-The Natural has a more defused hotspot, and appears a little less bright. Very Close though. Cant wait to see these tonight when its dark.
I am running them off Energizer Advanced Lithium at the moment
Not bothered by the PWM (Especially considering the price) BUT, it is very noticeable IMO and I would plant myself in the middle of the road as far as sensitivity is concerned.
Really nice little light, I am glad that I purchased both flavors, The shipping was a bit high but no one forced me to buy anything from CC. Overall I still think its a Great price!
And how cool is it that they come with "2" replacement O-Rings!!
My Fiance said "Its so tiny! Your going to loose that"😗
Awesome little light
-Bobby
socom1970
Flashlight Enthusiast
Just my $0.02... This light is excellent! Definitely 5 stars!!! Very well made, very bright, excellent Hard Anodizing (on the natural, anyway), and just the right amount of twist friction to turn it on and off. Internals are also top-notch, good bottom spring. The clip and lanyard ring are a bit flimsy, but acceptable to me for my use.
Well worth the $22.00 or $21.75, whatever they are charging now on CountyComm.com
Well worth the $22.00 or $21.75, whatever they are charging now on CountyComm.com
Kestrel
Flashaholic
Yes, but using 2xAAA changes the equation, 10440-level performance plus worry-free deep discharges. I ran the bejeebers out of that light and those two little cells that night.
LOL, Patriots’ post was right on, there is no right or wrong way.:huh:
Well, I had my Milky E1 two-level P7 w/ fresh IMR in the pocket, very un-naked actually.:tinfoil:
Anyway, Patriot summed it up perfectly, I don’t want to hijack the Maratac thread.:wave:
DHart
Flashlight Enthusiast
Ah yes. But if you're going to carry a 2xAAA light, why not just carry something like a Q123-2 on 17670 or an L-Mini II on 18650?
(Rhetorical question, as I know the answer already.... your 2xAAA is a favorite of yourn and is on you every day anyway!) 😉
Agreed!
In true flashaolic form, my friend! 😉
fredb
Newly Enlightened
Got mine today. The PWM flicker is very noticeable when shining the light on something in motion or just waving it around. For those who are sensitive to this sort of thing (such as I am), this might not be the light for you.
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