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This is why we clean float bowls, run them dry, and exercise equipment regularly. This showed up at a shop I used to work at, "It won't start, can you take a look at it." This is extreme obviously and took a long time but it gets the point across. Anyone who disassembles and cleans there own carbs should buy a cheap welding tip cleaner kit. Very stiff wire in various very small diameters, perfect for getting into carb passages.
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That looks like solder rosin flux
 

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This is why we clean float bowls, run them dry, and exercise equipment regularly. This showed up at a shop I used to work at, "It won't start, can you take a look at it." This is extreme obviously and took a long time but it gets the point across. Anyone who disassembles and cleans there own carbs should buy a cheap welding tip cleaner kit. Very stiff wire in various very small diameters, perfect for getting into carb passages.
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That looks about right. Gas deposits mixed with water and rust. Saw same (about half as bad) in stepdad's yamaha 2800i that had just come back from the shop for fuel cleanout. They completely did not check bowl.
 

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Need some o' dis!

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Those new gas cans are a real PIA.
They all take two hands to operate, and are a challenge
I put 5 gallon can of gas in my kid's F150 the other day, and got gas down my shirt and on my pants for the trouble. It's difficult to get that hose in the little hole inside the filler tube, and when you don't, it splashes back on you. Gad what a mess! I think I am going to retire that can, it leaks around the filler tube/can connection.
 

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Those new gas cans are a real PIA.
They all take two hands to operate, and are a challenge
The nozzles on my Harbor Freight jerry cans are just this side of tolerable. Slow flowing but so long as you maintain pressure against the valve actuator they do keep flowing. They're occasional use so I can deal with it, although I should probably source something not CARB-approved that's less likely to fail at an inopportune time.
 

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I put 5 gallon can of gas in my kid's F150 the other day, and got gas down my shirt and on my pants for the trouble. It's difficult to get that hose in the little hole inside the filler tube, and when you don't, it splashes back on you. Gad what a mess! I think I am going to retire that can, it leaks around the filler tube/can connection.
Last gas-can I bought had a specially made spout to make pouring easier. I also bought a fuel tank plastic funnel to help reduce splashing even further.
 

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Just gotta get off the wallet a little. You will smile every time you use them...

Sizes from 1-5 gallons. Colors for diesel, gas, kerosene, etc. USA made. Very nice & removable pour spout included.


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I still have (3) of the old rubbermaid 5 gallon cans... wide open spout on on end, vent on the other. Can't buy them new anymore, but amazon does sell replacement spouts.

Point of interest... USED cans like that are like $70 on ebay. Wow.
 

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Bought 4 of these and what a difference it makes. Spout goes right into any vehicle filler and you can control flow with squeeze handle for filling small equipment. Very precise dispensing.
Thanks for posting about these and I'll probably be buying a couple in the 2 gallon size and one 5 gallon. They also make them in yellow for easy diesel identification.

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I use a gallon container of parts cleaner. Comes with it's own internal strainer.
Just gotta get all the rubber parts out before soaking. Gets to all the passages you can't brush.
Saved me buying a few carburetor's over the years, clearing out stuck debris and jelled fuel.

Carburetor's are usually inexpensive to get a replacement one for small engines.
 

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I used one with this nozzle type from Harbor Freight yesterday to put fuel into my car, with the intention of putting fresh fuel back into the container. It's time to refresh my generator supply.
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The spout did reach into the gas filler hole of my car, but I had to depress a locking tab, with my thumb, and then depress the button to open the valve. It was challenging to do with just my thumb, and in particular because I couldn't get good purchase on the button because it was up against the fender. The cap or nozzle also leaked although I had it pretty tight, and I had to hold the bottom of the can, to hold it up. SO my left hand got covered in gas as it dripped to the ground. Certainly I needed to make sure it didn't drip onto my shoes or pants.

I suspect that depressing the release catch and then the button would be even more challenging if the plastic was cold, like in the winter. UGH!

I have I think four of them with THIS style release system.
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There is a thumb release lever, and then a squeeze green button to open the valve. The spring for the green button is pretty stiff, and my hand gets tired holding it in, while waiting for the container to empty.

The nozzle works for putting fuel into a generator or lawn mower, but is too short to reach the inlet of the gas tank in my car, so I had to use a funnel. That chore would have been easier if I had another person to hold the funnel.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the nozzle wasn't too short to reach the inlet. It could reach if the container was full. But with it held straight on, it couldn't tip high enough to fully drain all of the gas into the car, maybe 60%. I could turn the nozzle 90 degrees and empty more of it, but still not all the way. It was a challenge and awkward. I didn't use a funnel, but if I wanted to fully empty it, I could have used a funnel. That likely would have taken two people.
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Also when trying to refill the container, there is a strainer inserted in there that blocks the gas station nozzle such that one needs to fill it very slowly, or it will cause the automatic shut off to click off. The attendant told me that a lot of people break through the bottom of that strainer. I think that it is a safety device designed to keep the gas from jumping out if it is filled too quickly.

I have a small one or two gallon container that has a spout similar to this:
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It has a collar with slots in it that you rotate so that the slot lines up with the nozzle. When inserted into the neck of the fuel tank, and depressed into the neck the little lip catches on the edge of the neck and depresses the nozzle releasing the gas.
This is the easiest of the ones that I have.

@turbodog I had seen the one that you presented but am concerned that the attached funnel will collect dust and debris and then dump that into the gas tank clogging the carb. So I decided against it. What's your experience?
 
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The attached funnel removes in 5 seconds. Open the lid and slide it up over the spout.

You are right about dust/etc. I have an air compressor nearby and give it a quick shot.

The eagle metal cans are _really_ nice. They will take full flow from a gas pump so they fill quickly. They also empty quickly.

With the spout on top, as opposed to the can from post # 1572,
you don't get a "blast" of fuel if the can is hot and under pressure.

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Or, the eagle can is available w/o the funnel for a cheaper price.

I've owned a few different metal safety cans.

These sort of suck. The holding handle is also the spout opening handle, making it tough to control the flow, especially for when you only need 1/2 gallon in a generator.

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This model eagle has been the best. The holding handle and spout handle are separate.

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Even owned one of these... worst of the bunch. STRONG handle springs require Hercules grip strength, small diameter nozzle takes forever to fill, and these are almost twice as expensive as ANY other can.

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Misery loves company. I am glad I'm not the only one with gas can problems, or it would be my fault. It's just BAD ENGINEERING on the part of the gas can manufacturers, compounded by idiotic safety regulations from bureaucrats that don't live in the real world. :rant:
 

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I dunno. It's a neat design, but I question the long term outcome. The gasket/seal/etc is at the bottom. A failure/leak means a complete emptying. And eagle's only like $20 more. The seal is replaceable being just sheet cork and/or rubber.
 

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It's just BAD ENGINEERING on the part of the gas can manufacturers, compounded by idiotic safety regulations from bureaucrats that don't live in the real world. :rant:
Love it or hate it, CA market is immense, shaping how manufacturers design products. It's a coin toss whether OEM CARB-compliant spouts have caused more vapor pollution from spillage than they've prevented from simpletons failing to cap their containers (a somewhat self-correcting problem over time as premature refills are inconvenient).
 
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