Meet the twins. My new XR-E 4up's.

marcopolo

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Basically they are dual 4up XR-E R2 BFLEX cutter kits 14deg, 4deg. I've gone for puke green (actually flourescenet yellow in daylight) rather than polished aluminium and the backs are homegrown Carbon fibre. Excuse the postmans elastic bands as I havn't decieded how to mount it to the bars yet! Total head unit weights are 240g (120g each).

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The main feature is on the fly Master slave select (the wires hanging out of the back of the unit with jumper connects). The slider swtich in the centre is dual gang and disconnects the push button and connects the wire link from STAT+ to SW1. This basically means it can be controlled independently or switch birghtness via one button (useful I think if you have a wide/narrow like this). Just pop the jumpers together and flip the slider to slave on one unit.

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The bflex driver is recessed in the slug which makes for easy mounting (pinned down with blobs of silicon)

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The MCPCB is thermal epoxy Asetec silver to slug. I spread it with a stanley blade and it gets a nice thin even spread. - barely paper thin but good contact.

Finally my dodgey scematic.

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Having the Master slave select on the fly made the internal a lot more difficult than it needed to be. Also in hindsight I would not have bothered with t he addiditonal ON/OFF but it makes for extra protection.

Currently it's lashed up on 18cell AA MiMH (22v) pack sitting under the saddle (560g). I've swithced on and tested - fully working. I'll try get some beamshots soon. li-Po battery to follow.

Thanks for all the help on LED's etc here as this is my first build working with LED's. Also i'm open to bar mount suggestions. Where do you all get those large dinotte style o'rings in the UK?

Also I was thinking maybe using 2 narrow (4 deg) optics and diverging the beams slightly on a mount to give 6-8deg spread - dumb idea? Or maybe machining down the 14 deg cutter like you did Trout!!

Marco.

Almost forgot ...edit... they are bright lights!!!
 
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That's gonna be a whole lotta light- looks good so far- what is the can diameter? The handlebar mount may be the hardest part!
 
Can diameter is 38mm. Looks a lot larger because of my macro shots!!
 
OK i've managed to quickly cadge up a bar mount from scavanged old bike bits. Pictures of that later, but first the goodies: beamshots. Aswell as the cutter 4, 14 deg I machined the dimples off a spare 14 deg cutter lens and it came out nice and clear/smooth.

BFLEX set to Max - 1000mA for all shots.
Camera: Panasonic FZ-30 F2.8 4s ISO80
Furthest visible dimly lit tree in right hand side of tree 'tunnel' is at 70m.
The only thing I would say about these photos is that the exposure for the central areas of the photos is correct for what I was seeing but the periphery ie. the 'spill' was far greater than the photos depict. It's almost like only the bright cone was correctly exposed wheras the spill is underexposed.


First up:

4 degree cutter lens: (aimed a bit low I think)
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14 degree cutter lens:
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14 degree cutter lens with dimples machined off. To me it looks more like a 6 deg with very little spill:
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14 deg + 4 degree cutter lenses both lights on; the entire trail was brightly lit to around 45m:
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Bit more info:

LED Vf at 1000mA was 13.24v for 4s so each is around 3.3v at 1000mA which is surprisingly low. I may get away with using my 12cell NiMH packs from my old light system until I get the Li-PO's.

Marco.
 
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LED Vf at 1000mA was 13.24v for 4s so each is around 3.3v at 1000mA which is surprisingly low.

Yep thats what we have been seeing recently.

Really nice work, and great beamshots.

I always though it would be good to do a dual bflex with independent control of wide/narrow. 2 way mom switch would do it.
 
That what I've done with these, one double pole switch for dip & main beam.
Dip has the 14deg optic on 350mA & the 4deg switched off, main has the 14deg on 750mA & 4deg on 1000mA.
The dip is angled down to about 3m in front of the front wheel & the main about 11m
I also use a triple R2 set up on my helmet switched between 350mA & 1000mA
I use 14.4v 2.2Ah batteries & bflexs (1 for each light) so I have 3 independant lights - I'm getting over 2.5 hours burn time (not been on a longer night ride yet!) using a combo of main & dip when climbing but when testing, I got over 3 hours when leaving on main for 1.5 hours & then switching to dip before bflexs went out of regulation & started to to dim. Vf for the quad at 750mA was 12.67 so I knew I could run at that current & I also have some 6.6Ah batteries if longer run times are needed.
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Disaster strikes!!!

The drivers started to occasionally misbehave in master/slave mode. Re-configured in independent mode again but they are still playing up with various strange faults. I've e-mailed George at TaskLED who reckons they are faulty but anyway something has definitely gone. Whether or not it is something I have done or component failure or some table corruption I don't know.

I've taken the drivers out and there is no obvious short/damage/bad connections. The protection diode seems fine too.

So it's out with the drivers until I get replacements ASAP.:mecry:

On the bright side it gives me time to fit/test and bed in my new Marzocchi forks........and to make my MC-E helmet light - no driver - 12 cell HiMH to 2R2 resistor on 4s MC-E - should be around 750mA.:twothumbs

Marco.
 
Nice looking lioghts there Marcopolo, they look like they work really well together. Real shame about the driver failure :( I had a few problems with my 1st attempt at wiring a bFlex:oops:.

I'm in the process of doing a triple XRE cutter at the moment. Hope it works somewhere near to how well yours do :thumbsup:
 
Back up and running again!!!

BFlex drivers repaired and back in lights. Thanks for doing such a quick repair on them George, (at TaskLED)

Hendo, thanks for the reccomendation on the lumicycle mounts - they are really good.

I've ditched the master slave selector - made the wiring a lot more simple, the lights look neater and it's far more difficult for water to get in now.

Total weight for both lights is 240g including mounts. NiMH battery+bag+leads is around 600g but the Li_PO setup will only be around 280g. I'm aiming for a stotal ystem weight of around 500g with the Li-PO's- not bad for a 2000+ lumens setup!

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I'm up in Edinburgh. Good mountainbiking all around me. Including the the imfamous Glentress!!

Marco.
 
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