Mod options for Mag 2C?

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What can I do with a Mag 2C?

As far as I know, these are the easiest Mods:

- Stock 2C Mag + 2x AW 'C' Li-ion + Mag 6D Xenon bulb = how many lumens should I get out of this?

- 2C Mag with UCL lens + 2x AW 'C' Li-ion + Aluminum reflector + Pelican Big D LOLA = Lumen?

- 2C Mag with UCL or Borofloat + 2x AW 'C' Li-ion + Aluminum reflector + Pelican Bid D HOLA = 600 lumens achievable?

Do I need to do some resistance mod or button or socket replacement in order to run the ROP HOLA?

Thanks in advance. 🙂
 
Another "cheap" option is
Reflector from FiveMega $25
G4 socket from FM $16 or $19 (depending brass or stainless) Will run 1111,1185, 5761 and a bunch of others
Lens (ucl or boro) $7
If you are going to run 18650's get downloads 2c mag ring kit $22 shipped.
So $70 + another 10 or so for shipping and whatever batteries and bulb you go with.

I just built the above set up, running a 5761, and I love it. I would like to run the AW C size, but they are not available, and for the used ones on the market are $40ish ea. So until they are out again stick with the 18650....

Is run time a big concern? If it is then you will want the C cells....
 
Seiko said:
Another "cheap" option is
Reflector from FiveMega $25
G4 socket from FM $16 or $19 (depending brass or stainless) Will run 1111,1185, 5761 and a bunch of others
Lens (ucl or boro) $7
If you are going to run 18650's get downloads 2c mag ring kit $22 shipped.
So $70 + another 10 or so for shipping and whatever batteries and bulb you go with.

I just built the above set up, running a 5761, and I love it. I would like to run the AW C size, but they are not available, and for the used ones on the market are $40ish ea. So until they are out again stick with the 18650....

Is run time a big concern? If it is then you will want the C cells....
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Ok, do you have any links for those parts?

I'd prefer to use C Li-Ion for the extra runtimes, since 18650 IMR have little capacity... but I'm ok with that as long I as get more than decent outputs.

Thanks.
 
Outdoors Fanatic said:
Ok, do you have any links for those parts?

I'd prefer to use C Li-Ion for the extra runtimes, since 18650 IMR have little capacity... but I'm ok with that as long I as get more than decent outputs.

Thanks.
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lamp socket for mag
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179891

Reflector This is the one I got, he has several other ones with smaller openings.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=215018

Lens can be purchased at lighthound.com, or flashlightlens.com

downloads c ring kit
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=178764
Don't need this unless going with 18650's, but you will need to do some work on the tail cap spring and maybe a spacer of your own making to run the AW C's
The output will be the same 18650 or C but the C will have a much greater run time.
 
I'd recommend download's C ring kit, makes it very easy to use 18650 and is reversable in the future. I love the 2C form factor btw!

Some cheaper parts (reflector, lens, G4 bi-pin) can be found on KD...

Dan
 
What's the expected runtimes for these lamps on 2x18650 IMR?

- ROP Low
- ROP High
- Mag 6D Xenon
- WA 1185 (3xRCR IMRs are needed right?)

Thanks again.
 
Outdoors Fanatic said:
What's the expected runtimes for these lamps on 2x18650 IMR?

- ROP Low
- ROP High
- Mag 6D Xenon
- WA 1185 (3xRCR IMRs are needed right?)

Thanks again.
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Heres the best explanation on how to figure run time I have seen. This is by DM51 in another thread.

DM51 said:
Working out runtime is not difficult. Divide the capacity of the cell (mAh) by the current (mA). That gives you the time in hours (h). Multiply by 60 to get mins. Then reckon on a usable 80% of that time to avoid discharging the cell too low.

As with other hotwire set-ups, just make sure you don't let the light get too hot to touch. Keep it in your hand, don't set it down while it is running.

If the head gets very hot, this could overheat the batteries, and you don't want that.
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And practical application of that.... Im going to use my 6p with the 1111 bulb installed (only thing I have right in front of me)

Batteries IMR 2x16340 so 550 mAh
Current it draws 3.5 A at the tailcap so 3500mA
550/3500 = 0.157 0.157x60= 9.42mins 9.42/80%= 7.53mins of runtime

Real world numbers of course will differ depending on temperature, variations in actual mAh of the battery and so on. But its a good ball park figure.
 
Seiko said:
Heres the best explanation on how to figure run time I have seen. This is by DM51 in another thread.



And practical application of that.... Im going to use my 6p with the 1111 bulb installed (only thing I have right in front of me)

Batteries IMR 2x16340 so 550 mAh
Current it draws 3.5 A at the tailcap so 3500mA
550/3500 = 0.157 0.157x60= 9.42mins 9.42/80%= 7.53mins of runtime

Real world numbers of course will differ depending on temperature, variations in actual mAh of the battery and so on. But its a good ball park figure.
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Thanks for the explanation.

How many lumens does the 1111 bulb deliver? Can I use it in the Mag 2C with the proper socket? (I should get solid 30 mins on 2x18650 IMR, so I'm a happy camper).
 
Outdoors Fanatic said:
Thanks for the explanation.

How many lumens does the 1111 bulb deliver? Can I use it in the Mag 2C with the proper socket? (I should get solid 30 mins on 2x18650 IMR, so I'm a happy camper).
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In my mag with a 1111 2x18650 AW protected it draws 3680mA so call it 28 mins of run time. Might draw more or less mA with the IMR's (I am waiting on mine to arrive)

As far as lumen, yes you charge the batteries to 4.2V ea so 8.4, but under the 3.5A draw they will sag down to 7.4 or 7.2 I forget. I don't quite know how I could measure this, so I am going based off of what I have read here in the past. End result of 800-850 lumen based on luxluthors detructive testing of bulbs. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179748
 
I'm interested to build a hotwire Mag C as well.
-Using a FM G4 socket so I can try out the different bulbs (1185, 1111, 5761, 1164/1160)
-What reflector? I'm absolutely new to this so whats the difference between cammed and camless reflector?
-UCL or Borofloat lens
-The upcoming 'C' size AW IMR cells

However, I cant decide between 2C or 3C. Advantages/disadvantages? Output? Runtime?
Would I need to use AW's soft start switch?

Oh and on a side note, I'm looking to get at least 30 to 60 mins of runtime.
 
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MetalZone said:
I'm interested to build a hotwire Mag C as well.
-Using a FM G4 socket so I can try out the different bulbs (1185, 1111, 5761, 1164/1160)
-What reflector? I'm absolutely new to this so whats the difference between cammed and camless reflector?
-UCL or Borofloat lens
-The upcoming 'C' size AW IMR cells

However, I cant decide between 2C or 3C. Advantages/disadvantages? Output? Runtime?
Would I need to use AW's soft start switch?

Oh and on a side note, I'm looking to get at least 30 to 60 mins of runtime.
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While AW C IMRs aren't out yet... Check this out: http://www.aircraft-world.com/shopexd.asp?id=5041
 
Outdoors Fanatic said:
Thanks man!

I think I'm gonna stick with the ROP lamps for the 2C...

Do you know if I can use ANR 26650 MA1 batteries from A123 Systems in the 2C? They seem to be even better than 'C' IMRs...

Check it out: http://www.a123systems.com/products
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The 26250s are 15mm longer than a normal "C" and about 11mm longer than an AW C Lion. You might be able to use 2 of the AW extenders.

Those A123 are also 3.3V so while they hold up to a heavy load they most likely will still be pumping out a lower voltage.
 
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