MOD possibilities for the Wolf Eyes M300 Lion?

[dutchguy2]

I just bought myself a WE M300 Lion. It is a very nice, handy, light. I like the standard guild free option it has .

It uses a 12v bulb module rated at 380 bulb lumens. At the moment this is the maximum output for this flashlight with a runtime of 70 Minutes. I think, considering the whole setup of this flashlight, that it is capable of much more .

Does anybody has an idea how to mod it to 500 or 600 lumens?


Here are pictures of the bulb module:

I've already asked Lumens Factory but they have no plans in designing a lamp for the M300.

Thanks for looking,
Jos

 

[MikeLip]

No idea - you're the first person I've seen that has one. Maybe you can do a quick review on it, since I am intrigued by it too.

 

[cernobila]

Looks like the lamp assembly is very similar to the WE Eagle lamps.....I did something similar to my Eagle light to take bi-pin bulbs such as the WA1111. It is a pain to do but doable, the biggest issue is that you loose the spring in the conversion and this creates a problem with the switch system, you have to get the tube/battery relationship just right.....not sure if its the same on the M300.....I am sure that this light could run any one of the bi-pin lamps suitable for a 3x 18650 set-up.......have a look at;

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=183607

and my sig line for new beam shots towards the bottom of the thread

 

[mdocod]

if you could just get an 1185 in there....

 

[ideefixe]

Does anybody has an idea how to mod it to 500 or 600 lumens?

Just an idea for a super compact WA1185 light...

How about soldering or AA epoxying a KIU socket to the pc board of a lamp module. You might need to bore out the module''s opening a bit so that the bulb's legs don't touch it.
I will attempt this mod once I've gather all the parts.

I also like to see if someone can make a 2Sx2P 17670s battery holder so that we can power a WA1111 with longer runtime than on 2xLi-on C's. err...nevermind, maybe 4x17670s won't fit.

I hope that FiveMega will have some M300 mods in the future... :wave:

 

[cernobila]

Just an idea for a super compact WA1185 light...

How about soldering or AA epoxying a KIU socket to the pc board of a lamp module. You might need to bore out the module''s opening a bit so that the bulb's legs don't touch it.
I will attempt this mod once I've gather all the parts.

I also like to see if someone can make a 2Sx2P 17670s battery holder so that we can power a WA1111 with longer runtime than on 2xLi-on C's. err...nevermind, maybe 4x17670s won't fit.

I hope that FiveMega will have some M300 mods in the future... :wave:

I would guess that the lamp module in the M300 is hollow just like in the Eagle lamp module. It is important to make sure that in the final conversion the bi-pin lamp filament is in the same position as in the original bulb for the focusing to work in the same way.

 

[LED61]

I would guess that the lamp module in the M300 is hollow just like in the Eagle lamp module. It is important to make sure that in the final conversion the bi-pin lamp filament is in the same position as in the original bulb for the focusing to work in the same way.

I own one too, it would probably tolerate some error in filament placing as the light is focusable. On a little side note, Mike at PTS told me over the phone they are expecting better bulbs from the factory for this particular light during the year. I don´t know if those plans still hold true because this was a few months ago.

 

[SilverFox]

Hello Jos and Alberto,

Whatever modifications you decide to do to the M300, make sure you always use protected cells in it.

I have been playing with the new A123 18650 cells and was surprised when the pack came off the charger at 13.86 volts. That works out to 4.62 volts per cell. Had I been using a normal Li-Ion cell, I would have had problems.

It appears that Wolf Eyes is using the same charging technique that Pila used a while back. The charger supplies 4.6 volts to make sure the protection circuit is reset, and relies on the over voltage protection circuit to terminate the charge.

This is a great little light. I am having a lot of fun playing with it. Just keep in mind that if you replace the cells, make sure that you are using protected cells. I would go so far as to recommend Wolf Eyes cells, because they have a very robust circuit that is designed to handle this charger. I am not sure if the protection circuit on AW's cells is designed to handle this much over voltage, but I seem to recall something like it being good to 5 volts. I don't know this for sure, so be careful.

Tom

 

[SilverFox]

Interestinig, I thought I had lost this post, and when I look in the main index, it does not appear. Oh well, its here.

Tom

 

[LED61]

Thanks for the advice Tom, much appreciatd as always. I had planned on using only WE cells, same for my Raider rechargeable with 18500's. I have found some chargers don't work well for WE cells. Some come off hot at 4.3V and capacity is down after a few cycles, ending voltage unbalanced at 3.91 and 3.99 instead of the original 4.3, even in the WE charger. But the runtime is still close to the 1 hour mark vs 1 hour and ten minutes originaly when new.

 

[SilverFox]

Update:

I checked with AW. His protection circuits have a maximum voltage of 12 volts. His protected cells should work fine with these lights.

Tom