N30 VS 24W HID

The Wolf eyes has a 6000K 1800 lumen bulb.

The N30 has a 4200K 3200 lumen 35 watt bulb driven at 30 watts
Photos of the N30 and L35 demonstrate that 30 watts is sufficient to get these bulbs to nearly, or should I say, virtually full power in terms of Lumen output.

In the original photos the N30 was actually brighter then the L35. When using the same bulb in both lights the L35 would be ever so slightly brighter but the difference was so small that it take light meters to notice it.



Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave:
 
Here is a link to kensiro's comparison of a Wolf eyes 24 watt shark
a Brightstar 24 watt and the AE 24 watt and a Polarion P1.

http://home.earthlink.net/~kenshiro2/

I do not know how much the Boxer is improved over the original Wolf eyes 24 watt.
He took the photos at a very generous for the lights 15 second exposure.
In that test the AE was the brightest 24 watt light. This was noticeable but not overwhelming. The Wolf eyes was clearly the worst. The Polarion 35 watt P1 was OVERWHELMINGLY brighter then the 24 watt lights at a 15 second exposure.

Below are photos I took of a Brightsar 24 watt, an N30, and a Polarion P1. The Brightstar photo was from a different night but the location was the same and the camera settings were the same.

The lights were placed about 5 feet to the side of one another from one night to the other. The Brightsar was focused at the dirt tip of the turn in the road.
130 yards away. The N30 and P1 were focused on the rock wall behind the road 138 yards away because by this time the dirt tip of the road washed away.

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Brightstar
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N30

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Polarion P1
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Now if the 24 watt boxer has been significantly improved the 6000K 24 watt bulb should do better then the 7000K bulb in the Brightstar. However, if you looked at the the photos on kenshiros page you will know that none of the 24 watt lights can come even remotely close to a Polarion P1. The N30 is not as bright as a Polarion P1 but it is significantly brighter then the Brightstar 24 watt. The N30 is certainly no Polarion P1 but is also does not cost $1000. It is also much closer in it throwing ability to the P1 then the Brightstar. It also actually puts out more total light then the P1 when you take into account the wide bright spill that can be seen in the bush on the right. That spill is great for near field illumination. What the P1 does so well is put LOADS of light down field over a wide area.

These photos are the best I can do at this time in terms of giving some sort of comparison between a 24 watt light and a N30. The P1 is the common link between the two different light comparisons.

Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave:
 
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The N30 wins, no comparison. I find it almost funny how the N30 is destroying everything in its price range and physical size.
 
The N30 wins, no comparison. I find it almost funny how the N30 is destroying everything in its price range and physical size.

So the N30 is getting lots of rave reviews everywhere I see it mentioned. Is there anyone who does NOT like this light (and has a well-stated reason for that, so I can evaluate whether it would apply to me and my wants/needs/desires)?
 
So the N30 is getting lots of rave reviews everywhere I see it mentioned. Is there anyone who does NOT like this light (and has a well-stated reason for that, so I can evaluate whether it would apply to me and my wants/needs/desires)?

I don't like it, because it's GREEN. Yuck!
 
I don't like it, because it's GREEN. Yuck!

Green is my favorite color, but that is not why this one is green.
The original AI was a dark green. Wayne wanted to keep the same color with the L35. He wanted the N30 to be green too in order to have some consistency in the product line. At the same time he wanted the N30 to be lighter. I chose this color/shade of green, because it is-

1. Darker then the Hitcachi/ Kawasaki power tool greens.
2. Associated with outdoors and camping.

Most people that have seen it like it. I have had several people tell me, "This light should be black and look tough, right now it looks like it belongs in a camping department of a sporting good store."

My general answer is "Your very statement is why this light is green, it is targeted to the outdoor/camping enthusiast on a budget."

It is not designed to be the toughest or best looking light on the market.
Rather it is designed to be the most practical, best performing, inexpensive sub 4 lb 30+ Watt HID spotlight on the market.

Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave:
 
Green is my favorite color, but that is not why this one is green.
The original AI was a dark green. Wayne wanted to keep the same color with the L35. He wanted the N30 to be green too in order to have some consistency in the product line. At the same time he wanted the N30 to be lighter. I chose this color/shade of green, because it is-

1. Darker then the Hitcachi/ Kawasaki power tool greens.
2. Associated with outdoors and camping.

Most people that have seen it like it. I have had several people tell me, "This light should be black and look tough, right now it looks like it belongs in a camping department of a sporting good store."

My general answer is "Your very statement is why this light is green, it is targeted to the outdoor/camping enthusiast on a budget."

It is not designed to be the toughest or best looking light on the market.
Rather it is designed to be the most practical, best performing, inexpensive sub 4 lb 30+ Watt HID spotlight on the market.

Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave:

What, you don't think I'm an outdoor/camping enthusiast on a budget?

Here's my take on it. Someone that's on a budget looking for something practical doesn't care what color it is. They're looking at the price. So why not make it black to draw in the crowd that likes tough looking lights. Unless of course making it black is more expensive.
 
Dark green would be ok. Camo would be cool.:thumbsup:
 
If I'm going camping, I want stuff that is ORANGE, preferably International Safety Orange, so I can find it even in the daylight, when it's switched off, amongst the mixture of greens, browns, and grays that nature provides.

But, hey! Your mileage may vary.

Plus a can of Krylon will fix it up so it's any color you buy, right? :thumbsup:
 
What, you don't think I'm an outdoor/camping enthusiast on a budget?

Here's my take on it. Someone that's on a budget looking for something practical doesn't care what color it is. They're looking at the price. So why not make it black to draw in the crowd that likes tough looking lights. Unless of course making it black is more expensive.

Because Wayne wanted me to choose another color of green and He was footing the bill for the lights. :D .

As I mentioned before, he wanted another green so that it would be in the same general color family as the AI and L35.

Aside from that, there are paints that do well over plastic if you do not like the color. Personally I think it is okay, but the hand made and painted prototype that I have that is a true deep hunter green looks much better.
However Wayne thought that color was starting to get dark enough to have people confuse the two different lights.

Other then that, if somebody wants a silver or black sub 4 lb 35 watt HID they can spend $1795 and get a Polarion X1. :D

Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave:
 
If I'm going camping, I want stuff that is ORANGE, preferably International Safety Orange, so I can find it even in the daylight, when it's switched off, amongst the mixture of greens, browns, and grays that nature provides.

But, hey! Your mileage may vary.

Plus a can of Krylon will fix it up so it's any color you buy, right? :thumbsup:


Well I can safely say that I have NEVER lost my Harbor Freight HID (the big one) in the grass or weeds.

Maybe the orange works? :nana:


Camo would be pretty sweet, I wounder if you could get it wrapped (like car and bus advertising wrap) in camo. Maybe a nice mossyoak or real tree...or even better US Army Digital Camo.
 
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